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I'm only 5'3" so aside from water and food help (thats all the kids would help with) the rest would be up to me and the hubby. We had 24x24 pens for the minilops as kids (and into the middle of highschool i stopped growing at like 8th grade lol) and I didn't have trouble. I don't know if an...

Whats the minimum for the non giant breed meat rabbits when it comes to the minimum width and length of all wire cages? There are complete kits for like $50 of 24x24x18 that comes with the kits for stacking the cages already with them. I think there is a 30x30 (don't know the height) kits also...

I was looking at a few options: This would allow us to house at least 4 of these on the one porch when we move (its the porch that doesn't have the best view in my opinion lol) and its more safe friendly (not that thats too important). By having something that we can keep on the one porch that...

Okay just wasn't sure... again same info gotten from the same person who scolded me when i talked about giving the rabbits corn once a week or so during the wintertime for some extra supplements (whole corn) Like i said when i was younger my minilops were always wire cages and i never...

you don't think that these "experts" don't survey the "wanna be experts" to use that as part of their study lol.... thanks for your opinion... but I wasn't seeking expert information just some first hand experience by others and opinions thats it... I can get expert opinions just fine from...

Thanks i just couldn't understand why corn would be bad when the cottontail family at our house now will munch on the corn if we open up an ear and leave it on the grown for them even the kits (who like to camp around in our garden without mom and dad lol) I know all to well about chickens, cuz...

After reading up and doing a lot of research. I think we may go with hutches, because i found a good deal on a double decker hutch kits. Then during the summertime around the end where our gardens will be put them in their own rabbit runs (treat it like a rabbit tractor) so they can forage a bit...

I think my original post has gotten way off track lol So that its clear... yes our rabbits when we get them will have free choice pellets 100% of the time... We were just looking at giving a supplement mix with some grains and stuff as a once a day treat... so we could give them something more...

Thanks, I understood the point. I guess it was me coming off the concept like with our two dogs, yes there are studies/stats but our one dog doesn't fit the mold he is 100% healthy (by the vet) and hes 100% happy (by us lol) but he doesn't tolerate the more natural foods like taste of the wild...

Im in ohio, so sometimes our winters are in the - digits thats what I was really worried about if it would increase the chances of kits freezing to death. Summertimes vary here with temps, this past year 90s... I call ohio the pms state when it comes to weather lol with the setup, no buck 100%...

Yes so true... just like your comment about commercial vets etc. was way off topic and actually gave no value other then drama and a debate. That isn't what I was looking for. As I said before all the info and stats are just base lines each individual/animal is going to be different from the...

Oh ya, the main structure will be a kit that is a walk in fence structure that can be used for chickens or rabbits (wed still run small square fencing along the sides so far up cuz of raccoon arms) and it has a metal fence top as part of it... so no worries about hawks or raccoons climbing in.

No one knows better Vets are different they know pet standards and treat animals, most do, as individual patients so shouldnt even be a part of the discussion lol... But yes backyard animal/farmers know their animals in their possession better than any stats derived from the animals they had...

Thanks The property has a lot of pine... is pine a no or yes when it comes to rabbits? We give the branches to our chickens when needles are green, even tho some say no but its in moderation and they could get to them by themselves anyways lol.

I get where you are coming from and the point trying to be made. But there are more factors involved here then just feed and what those type of things say. A university and commercial operations individually have their own agenda for the rabbits so how they go about it, "they" will produce a...

That makes sense... it's also why we were going to do the setup like described because the main predator on that property is raccoons, so we are predator proofing all our animals with them in mind. I do know there is a black snake on the property, still looking up how you can predator proof for...

Thanks I never thought about looking up trees safe for rabbits. I guess I just thought it wouldn't matter. Is it easier to look up things safe for rabbits, then looking up things unsafe for rabbits?

oh and the only reason i said something about the mineral and salt wheels is because I use to do minilops for 4h and thats what we were taught to do or at least I was told to do as a kid. but good to know not so much needed. With chewing are those painted blocks in the rabbit isle a good thing...

Thats good to know. I was curious since we were going to use ground hutches, as a extra security from preditors (they will sit in the fenced in foraging run area), and a secure place for the kits when there are some. Will the doe's claim their own hutch to where if they have kits they wont go...

Thanks for the info. its funny how the horse stuff that looks exactly the same as the rabbit equivalent is cheaper, youd think it be the other way around. My father and law supplies us in hay, we usually use it as bedding for the chickens but will nave a new use for it too. I figured a feeder...