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Recently in another post there was a discussion on whether goats can 'catch' chlamydia through intercourse, or if it's purely environmental.

After reading the responses, I discussed it w/ the friend who had told me her goats caught it from an infected buck.

She explained that the buck had just left a herd (unbeknownst to her and the buck's owner...she was borrowing him and he was 'making rounds') of does where an abortion storm was going on.

While it may result in infertility in bucks, apparently they can be exposed to the bacteria and take it to another farm before the disease progresses to that point....according to the vets she worked with trying to get the disease under control at her place.

Not wanting to make a donkey of myself...I did a little research to back it up....

http://www.goatworld.com/articles/chlamydia/chlamydia2.shtml

"Although we have demonstrated that servicing infected goats could result in infected sires [14], until now no epiddymitis due to C. psittaci has been described in sires. This is probably due to the very small number of studies on caprine chlamydiosis rather than a greater susceptibility of rams and bulls to chlamydial infections."

"Infected does excreted large numbers of Chlamydiae in placenta and fetal fluids at the time of kidding and at the time of abortion. Some goats may shed Chlamydia in vaginal fluids from more than two weeks before abortion to more than two weeks after abortion."

"The role the venereal transmission of chlamydiosis by males still needs to be investigated. However, genital infections in rams and bulls result in male infertility and sterility rather than abortion in females. The role that the disease plays in inapparent intestinal infection and its influence in the epidemiology of chlamydial abortion needs to be explored. The recent identification of molecular markers for caprine intestinal strains [13] would allow such studies."

From another article:

http://www.goatworld.com/articles/chlamydia/chlamydia.shtml

"Transmission of the Disease
Although transmission from ram to ewe at breeding is possible, the major sources of infection of clean animals are aborted fetuses, placentas, vaginal discharges, and infected feces"

One more:

http://www.jackmauldin.com/abortion.htm

"Chlamydia has been found in a buck's semen 29 days after being experimentally infected however the primary modes of transmission are from vaginal or uterine secretions of aborting Does and Does shedding the organism the following year"

So the conclusion I'm drawing is that while it may be unlikely that an infected buck will go on to infect does long term...because of sterility....and that it is usually 'caught' via something in the enviroment, it is not impossible for it to be transmitted sexually or even from contact from an 'exposed' buck being around 'clean' does.
 

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Good to know. :)

The only reason I brought up the bird thing is because a poster said they went through an abortion storm with *no clue* as to how her goats could have gotten chlamydia. That question had come up before...somewhere, maybe not even on this particular forum...and when questions like that come up, my brain goes into "seek and destroy" mode and won't let me stop searching until I figure it out.

That's how I ran across the connection to birds, which made total sense.. A little lightbulb came on, and so I filed that little tidbit away in the little goat rolodex in the back of my brain and resumed my regularly scheduled programming. :)


And, for the record, I don't think anyone here thought you were being a donkey. :p

ETA: I'm not sure why this is, and I'm not sure if you guys are seeing what I'm seeing...but I find it kinda funny that the google ad at the bottom of this thread is for L'oreal Feria hair coloring. They're targetted ads...which makes me wonder what google's found to be the connection between chlamydia and beauty products..

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My ad now is for banking....wierd.

I was just afraid someone might have walked away from the other discussion thinking, "OK, so my goat can't catch it from another goat." when they in fact CAN.
 

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Roll farms said:
My ad now is for banking....wierd.

I was just afraid someone might have walked away from the other discussion thinking, "OK, so my goat can't catch it from another goat." when they in fact CAN.
I hadn't really thought about it from that aspect...and I also hadn't really thought about it in terms of a buck going from one herd, to another, to another without having time to clear the infection..

Good thinking on the clarification.

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