Cost of CAE testing.. Oh man, you guys will love this!

[lupinfarm]

So to ship blood to Biotracking, if they took Canadian blood, which they don't, it would cost around $40 for the two does. And I would get results in one week by email.

My only option? The vet...

Our fee for a veterinarian coming to your farm:
Mobile $ 45.00
mileage 20-25 km. from Campbellford $ 13.75
CAE tests are $ 28.25 per goat
Courier fee for sending blood to British Columbia $ 35.00

The laboratory runs the tests every 3-4 days so depending on which day they receive the blood the tests could take up to 1-1 1/2 weeks.

That comes to $150.25 for my 2 Pygmy does to have blood tests done. That is just for CAE, I highly doubt either have CL but I'll speak to the vet about it.


Ridiculous, amiright?

I thought you guys would get a kick out of how much I have to pay, and just incase you were wondering.. the lab won't take blood unless the vet has drawn it. So no DIY blood taking.

 

[Mini-M Ranch]

WOW...that's really a deal. <rolls eyes and shakes head> You have pygmys, right? Can you possibly take them TO the vet? I've got minis and I took one of my girls to the vet IN THE FRONT SEAT OF MY CAR to save $50.00. She didn't even get upset, because she could lay her head on my leg while we drove.

I am now feeling SO blessed to have the vets that we have so close to us. They are pretty cheap and know what they are doing...the ultimate combination! We haven't done any testing here yet, but I'll be interested to find out how much it costs here as a comparison.

BTW - your website looks great!

 

[lupinfarm]

Mini-M, you're lucky... You can use Biotracking, they show you how to take blood (but you could ask your girls' breeders for help), and it's about $4 per goat plus shipping. Very cheap, but not available in Canada.

My vet won't take goats in to the office due to diseases that can be transimitted. Things like blood tests cost a fortune here, actually, everything costs a fortune lol. My dad has agreed to pay for it though, because he loves me

BTW, for Ontario.. that is cheap. Because we live in a rural area, the cost of vet service is MUCH cheaper. In the GTA something like two blood tests might cost me $250.

Thanks!! I need to update it, but something was wrong with my photo uploader that my dad is fixing (he's a computer specialist). I'm moving the Labradoodles on to their own website, hopefully lupinfarmdoodles.com and the goats will take their place.

I'm still going to sell my kids if my girls are positive, but we'll have to work harder to prevent cae in our kids. I will be passing my kids along with a silly little pedigree (i don't know our girls background, but i'll know the bucks) and our own home made health records plus a "kid care pack" which is something we send home with our puppies, usually with the dogs it includes some feed, collar, health info, etc., the kid one will include a personalized halter (my mum makes goat halters LOL), some feed, health information, pedigree.

WHEW! I can go on and on and on lol.

 

[houndit]

I had the same problem. Their was no way I was going through the vet. I sent it to W.A.D.D.L. in Washington state. They charged me $25.00 to test my 3 goats. Shipping was very little. They took quite a while to notify me. I though it was fairly reasonable to find out. They said that I could draw it myself. I do not know if they would except blood from Canada.

 

[lupinfarm]

They won't take blood from Canada... biotracking is much cheaper.

I've been speaking to a few goat breeders and the likelyhood that my girls are positive is fairly low but my vet is coming out next Wed to test anyway.

I've been told depending on the day of the week the blood goes to BC, I could expect it to take about a week to a week and a half to get results. Not too bad.

 

[no nonsense]

So to ship blood to Biotracking, if they took Canadian blood, which they don't, it would cost around $40 for the two does. And I would get results in one week by email.

My only option? The vet...

Our fee for a veterinarian coming to your farm:
Mobile $ 45.00
mileage 20-25 km. from Campbellford $ 13.75
CAE tests are $ 28.25 per goat
Courier fee for sending blood to British Columbia $ 35.00

The laboratory runs the tests every 3-4 days so depending on which day they receive the blood the tests could take up to 1-1 1/2 weeks.

That comes to $150.25 for my 2 Pygmy does to have blood tests done. That is just for CAE, I highly doubt either have CL but I'll speak to the vet about it.


Ridiculous, amiright?

I thought you guys would get a kick out of how much I have to pay, and just incase you were wondering.. the lab won't take blood unless the vet has drawn it. So no DIY blood taking.

With all due respect, I think that you're being incredibly unreasonable here.
Now at first glance, yes, $150 for CAE testing for two goats seems outragious, but broken down as you have, let's look at it:

First, last I checked the exchange rate was very close, so your dollar and mine should be almost the same. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Veterinary house call, $45. Are you kidding me? That is dirt cheap! Most places here, you won't even get an office visit for that. The veterinarian has the wear and tear on her vehicle, needs to stock it, or pay someone to, insurance, supplies, taxes, tuition payments, etc, etc. In her office she can see 4 or more patients in one hour, one after another. Going to your place, she only gets your $45. To put it another way, can you get a plummer, electrician, or appliance repairman to come for that price?

Mileage, what is that, about 12 miles? Just over a dollar a mile, with the price of fuel? Cheap.

28.25 each for the tests. It is what it is. Some tests can run into the hundreds, even thousands of dollars. Also cheap.

Courier fee, $35. You're dealing with perishable goods here. They can't go via regular mail. Solution? Move closer to BC, where they do the testing. That might cost you more than $35 though.

Cheaper through Biotracking? I assume they're in the US. When you're dealing with international trade, everything is more complicated. Cheaper if the lab would only accept blood directly from you? Yes, it would be nice, but as we discussed in another thread, if everyone had the skills and knowledge to do things like that, we'd all be better off. There's a reason why they have vet schools, because not everyone does. What happens when the lab gets blood in the wrong type of tubes, because some average goat owner didn't know better, but thought that she did? Does the serum need to be seperated? Do you even know what that is, or how to do it? Your vet does, and she has the machine to do it. Hint: it's not an inexpensive machine, maybe $750 or $1000 for a cheap one. Speaking of tubes, where are you going to get them? Are you going to pay for a pack of 50 or 100, when that's the only way they come? What about someone who sends contaminated blood which wasn't collected properly, giving a bad result, or doesn't package it correctly? Is the lab supposed to be out the costs for running the test because some inexperienced goat owner didn't know what to do?

There's often a lot more to things than what meets the eye.

 

[lupinfarm]

I know how to take blood, but they won`t accept from individuals. Biotracking IS in the US, I`m only in Canada... about 2 hours from the border. It could be run like biotracking, who sell the vacutubes and syringes and provide you with all the proper documentation. www.biotracking.com

Gas is actually fairly expensive here and I did avoid a huge cost if I had had my horses vet (the practices owner) do it because he charges more for the farm visit. Fine. But my point is, why am I paying $30 per goat per test when a company like biotracking, which does have a Canadian duplicate (they don`t do the goat tests though, only cattle and horses unfortunately) only charges $4 per tube plus shipping.

I did receive an email from biotracking today who have told me they are trying to get the ability to take Canadian blood soon.

no nonsense, we are NOT international. We are on the same continent we share a border Canada is NOT international from the US.

I am PERFECTLY fine buying 50 or 100 syringes or tubes. Chances are I will use them in the future anyway, especially since we have 6 dogs and currently breed.

I can understand courier, BC is all the way across the country.

If I could go into the office and take my girls, I would, but I can`t because my vet is also a small animal vet.

 

[cmjust0]

With all due respect, I think that you're being incredibly unreasonable here.
Now at first glance, yes, $150 for CAE testing for two goats seems outragious, but broken down as you have, let's look at it:

Hey...Captain Condescending...she didn't say it was unfair or that all the expenses couldn't be accounted for. The point of the post was that it's ridiculous how she's being nickel-and-dimed to the tune of $150 to have two goats tested for CAE, simply because she happens to be in Canada instead of the US. That's not being "incredibly unreasonable"...that's just being frustrated.

I'd be frustrated, too..

But I'd be straight-up PO'd if someone basically attacked me for being frustrated and tried to justify the nickel and diming by telling me stuff like 'gas is expensive'...like maybe she somehow hadn't realized that.

I mean, c'mon..

 

[no nonsense]

With all due respect, I think that you're being incredibly unreasonable here.
Now at first glance, yes, $150 for CAE testing for two goats seems outragious, but broken down as you have, let's look at it:

Hey...Captain Condescending...she didn't say it was unfair or that all the expenses couldn't be accounted for. The point of the post was that it's ridiculous how she's being nickel-and-dimed to the tune of $150 to have two goats tested for CAE, simply because she happens to be in Canada instead of the US. That's not being "incredibly unreasonable"...that's just being frustrated.

I'd be frustrated, too..

But I'd be straight-up PO'd if someone basically attacked me for being frustrated and tried to justify the nickel and diming by telling me stuff like 'gas is expensive'...like maybe she somehow hadn't realized that.

I mean, c'mon..

Well, twist it however you want CM. I was attacking no one, just pointed out how the costs involved are reasonable, and why. Sure, maybe she's frustrated, but that's not what she wrote. She wrote that the costs were ridiculous. Everything costs money. What's wrong with stating an opinion that an idea is unreasonable, read again, with all due respect, without attacking or name calling, which you seem to like to resort to?

Anyway, if someone insists that trade between two countries is not international, just because both are on the same continent, then I see that there's no use in further trying to debate with that kind of mentality. Good luck to you both.

 

[cmjust0]

Well, twist it however you want CM. I was attacking no one, just pointed out how the costs involved are reasonable, and why. Sure, maybe she's frustrated, but that's not what she wrote. She wrote that the costs were ridiculous.

No, she didn't -- that's just how you're taking it, and frankly, I think you took it wrong.

Go back and take another look....she describes the whole scenario, skips a few lines, and then writes the words "Ridiculous, amiright?"

I don't take that to mean it's just the cost that she's calling ridiculous, but the entire situation.

Everything costs money. What's wrong with stating an opinion that an idea is unreasonable, read again, with all due respect, without attacking or name calling, which you seem to like to resort to?

Because that's not what you did.. You didn't say the idea was unreasonable, you said SHE IS unreasonable....extremely unreasonable, actually. You cast your opinion on her, not her idea.

If that's not a personal attack, I dunno what is.

Anyway, if someone insists that trade between two countries is not international, just because both are on the same continent, then I see that there's no use in further trying to debate with that kind of mentality. Good luck to you both.

That kind of "mentality," huh...again with the sideways condescencion. Look, if you're gonna do it, you should at least be straight up about it and own it!