Cough, mucous, limp -- poor doe!

Lil-patch-of-heaven

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I've had off-and-on problems with the doe I got most recently -- about 2-1/2 weeks ago I think.

I noticed a slight limp in one foreleg one evening last week but she seemed fine the next day. For the past two days she's limping off and on again. She seems reluctant to put the hoof fully on the ground but I checked and can't see anything wrong with it. I felt her leg from shoulder to hoof and she doesn't act tender. I can't find any swelling or heat. What I DO notice is that the last joint makes a tiny clicking sound sometimes when I bend it. Sometimes she seems fine and runs. Ahead of everyone and sometimes she limps a bit and lags behind.

I noticed a dry cough several days ago. The next day she got a bit of clear snot on the grain dish. Coughing increased from a single cough a few times a day to sometimes three or four in a row a few more times a day. No more mucous until earlier today when the inside of her nose looked wet with aclear mucous. A few hours later I checked and it was dry again. I noticed her buckling cough about 4-5 times in a row once when he was lying beside her but other than that he never coughs. Neither does the doeling. My other doe sometimes coughs after scarfing down her grain while milking but otherwise rarely

I took the does temp rectally (that was harder than I expected!) and it came out 102.1. I thought goats were 103? It was early in the day tho. Her droppings are normal. She browses most of the day and acts normal except for the limp. I generally offer her a couple bowls of 16% sweet feed twice a day which she usually eats most of quickly. Sometimes leaves some in the bowl. I have fresh dryhorse hay in the goat shed which she ignores -- they all do. I give her loose minerals about every other day. She usually takes more than the others. I checked inside her mouth for color but she didn't let me see much. It's pink -- maybe less pink than the others but that can be my imagination.

I'm not sure what else to report. She's a yearling, nursing a 7-week or so buckling. Alpine/Nubian cross. The lady I got her from said she wormed a few times a year, using a different worker each time. She ran a closed herd and said they were all tested negative at some point.

I've been reading on here and wondering if lungworms aren't the most likely cause of the cough? If nothing else maybe a good idea to treat just in case? Could be allergies too? The pollen is terrible these days.

Anything I should be doing or checking for? Advice MUCH appreciated.

Oh and I've started milking her -- not saving it but just getting her used to the stand. She has tiny teats and kicks and I barely get anything from her -- I'm learning that a different technique works better for her. But I'm not milking her regularly yet and surely not getting more than a few oz -- probably much less.

Thanks!
 

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Possibly the cough is due to lung worm....fecals are done differently for lung worm than other worms, but can be done if the vet knows how *or* you could go ahead and deworm her w/ ivermectin (injectable, but give it orally, 1cc per 25#) and then repeat in 3 weeks and see if it clears up.

It also might be allergies, but I'd treat for lung worm and see if that helped.

As far as the limp, too many possibilities there for me to pinpoint, but it sounds like you've checked all the obvious signs, unless there's a rock or thorn or something stuck in where you can't see it...which can happen. We had a doe w/ a thorn that worked up into her foot/ leg, and you couldn't see a thing by looking at the hoof, the vet had to dig it out and she was in a 'boot' for a month.

Their temp should be somewhere between 102-103...ea. goat is different. Now that you have a 'baseline' for her, you'll know next time if it is higher or lower that something is 'up'.

Probably wouldn't hurt to deworm the buckling as well, and your other goats if you hear them coughing.
 

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Thank you, Roll.

I'll check about the worming. I don't want to just rush in and do it without knowing what's going on but otoh I understand lungworms can cause damage if left untreated and a neg fecal can still be misleading on any worm?

I wish I knew what to do for the limp. She's not the most cooperative doe but if I HAD to do something I can probably get her restrained and do it. I don't think her hooves have ever been
trimmed but she's not too fussy about having her legs handled. Not near as protective as she is of her udder, lol.

I can at least put a salve or balm on the clicking knee maybe in case it's that joint. I need to find out what's safe for them. I have tons of warming and cooling oils if I can use something like that.

I'm wondering mow about a "boot" and if I can/should clean the hoof and put something on it to keep it clean in case it's some abrasion. We are new to this place and did a LOT of cleanup to the main area. There wasn't as much debris in the pasture but I did clear out some. Maybe I missed something and she got hurt on it. My other doe got a good scratch on one foreleg but it's healing very well. They both practically climb trees for browse and there are some thorny vines. I don't see or feel anything like that on this doe, though.

Edited to fix silly things done by the auto spell-grammar

Thanks again, so much!
 

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I don't think her hooves have ever been trimmed but she's not too fussy about having her legs handled
You should trim their hooves every 3 - 4 mos depending on their terrain. Not trimming would feel as if you didn't trim your toe nails and they grew under your feet. If left untrimmed they can also get hoof rot.

Deworming can't hurt them, even if they don't have worms. Better to be safe than sorry...
 

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Hmmm ... They must have had them trimmed then. I've checked all the hooves. The one I'm asking about here has a tiny irregularity on a back hoof (not where she's limping) that probably could use trimming sometime. My other doe has back hooves where one side of each hoof is just a tiny bit longer than the other side.

I was under the impression the lady I got them from did not trim but I must have been mistaken. I suppose they'd be worse than tHat if they never had been.

Something else I've yet to learn. I've seen pics and read about it but not done it yet.

Thanks for the info. :)

Lol the funny thing is this one book showed it as though you could lay the goat flat on it's back and extend the legs up to do it. I'm guessing it's not actually done that way ... ;)
 

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I trim mine on the stanchion for the most part, except for the horned boer does who's heads won't go in. They just eat while I work on their feet, and don't mind at all.

I do have a Kiko doe who's hooves I only need to trim 1x a year...the rest get done 3-4 x a year.
 
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