Goat Hooves 101

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I would like to start this thread on this topic for all of us unexperienced and beginning goat owners. So, I would like to stick to the topic on this one and if there are any "Side Issues" or comments that arise, please take them to a journal page, and resist the temptation to post here....Thanks in advance.
First off, my problem with the hoof trimming youtube videos is the fact that most seem to have their best behaved goat, and regularly trimmed hooves that are shown. Also, there are usually 2-3 people there to handle the goat when issues arise. There never seems to be any evaluation of the hoof, or as to where to cut to...how deep...to acquire a properly aligned hoof. No, it isn't rocket science, but some of us lack any experienced mentor around that will devout their time to a new caring owner. I don't want to subject mine to my trial and error method, because I don't even know enough to ask the right question. I will post pics of my 3's hooves, and any that care to do so, are welcomed to post either for evaluation, or for a visual as to what is being explained. Please keep any rude or crude comments to yourself, because we all need to learn and not to blast another that may not know any better. It will encourage others to participate with the least amount of embarrassment. I have broad shoulders and thick skin, but another may not, so be helpful and understanding as to any instruction.
Okay, the pics I got today are not the best, but will get better ones tomorrow.
First up is Comet, he is having a problem with his front left hoof, and I have trimmed it where it curls under with growth, but with the dampness and his activity it has split and is notched just behing the toe..... IMAG2594.jpg ...I think of it as a fingernail split into the quick, but I am unsure about how much I can take off to even it up without doing damage and creating another problem. It has to be sore, because he limps a bit on it, but when startled will run. His rears are uneven, but the edges are not terrible underneath the hoof, as they are worn down fairly well.....IMAG2595.jpg ...his feet are not square tho and need a better trimming job for sure, but there again, how? Any assistance and instruction on this would be greatly appreciated.....:)
I was corresponding with @Southern by choice on this and she thought starting a thread on it was a good idea.
 

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I think this will be a great thread!

Please keep any rude or crude comments to yourself, because we all need to learn and not to blast another that may not know any better. It will encourage others to participate with the least amount of embarrassment. I have broad shoulders and thick skin, but another may not, so be helpful and understanding as to any instruction.
Well said! :thumbsup

Please, post your pics of good, bad, ugly hooves!
This is so important for learning!

I did take some pics but need to go back through... I have more hooves to do this week so MORE pics coming.
I tried to take pics of hooves that grow "funky". These kinds are difficult to work with.
It looks like in the 2nd pic you have @CntryBoy777 your goat may have a "funky" hoof too! It looks like the one toe rolls. This is not always from hooves needing trimmed or trimming related... it can just be how the toe is. I will try and get some pics to go with the ones I have taken to explain a little better how to work with it. The light was not great for pics so some are really hard to see.

This is the EZ goat holder from Valley Vet - For those that don't need a stanchion but do need a holder. This one is kind of pricey IMO $50 it is heavy though - 20lbs!

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Wow!....I do like that and with just 3 goats it beats $150 for a milk stand w/stanchion. I did try to get better pics today too, but the skeeters here are extremely terrible and us nor the goats could stand still long enough to get them, seriously. It is horrid outside here right now....but I will get them.
 

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This is the EZ goat holder from Valley Vet - For those that don't need a stanchion but do need a holder. This one is kind of pricey IMO $50 it is heavy though - 20lbs!
That is pretty cool. You could raise it higher on the fence and use a hay bale for a temporary milk stand if necessary @Latestarter . Oh... and since this is a hoof thread - even putting them up on a hay bale would make it easier on the back.
 

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That is very true, and I like the adjustment of it. Because the boys are much taller than Star....she is even short for a pygmy, I think.
 

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Hooves in the summer here are a 4 letter word. They are so dang hard that it take the hand muscles of the Hulk to trim them. That being said they are horrible right now. I even broke the bank and bought an electric hoof trimmer...don't. They are great for side walls and smoothing out the bottoms but what I have trouble with is the trimming the length off of the toes and they don't help with that.

I have two does that have the absolute worst feet I have ever seen on a goat. They ladies are old and their hooves are curled, no amount of trimming helps. I will have to try and get a picture.

When I take my time and really get serious about hooves I use a hoof plane to get the bottoms even. It is really a carpenter plane that is also used for smoothing off edges of drywall. It works really good on the heel to make the hoof level.
 

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One of the things I've found to be an issue is the long hair growing down over the top of the hoof. If you can trim that back some so you can see the coronal band at the top of the hoof/bottom of the ankle, you'll have a "straight edge" reference when trimming the hoof bottom. From what I understand the bottom of the hoof should be basically parallel to the coronal band. If the hooves are really bad or funky it may take multiple trimmings over time to get them close or right.
 

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Things will be picking up here, I ordered the EZ goat holder from Valley Vet that SBC shared and was notified today that it has been shipped....so, should get it this next week. I did get a pic of Lightnings front hooves as he was standing on the fence.....IMAG2605.jpg ....as you can see they need trimming, but they aren't too bad for it being almost a year since they were trimmed. Having the goat holder will cure that problem and will be trimmed very regularly.
 

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his feet are not square tho and need a better trimming job for sure, but there again, how?
I was, initially, taught to lash the goat to a wire fence with a rope (with its side against the fence). So, the rope goes across the chest along the exposed side & around the rump. Do the exposed side first, then turn the goat 180°, relash it to the fence & repeat.

Putting a carabeaner on each end makes it easier to hook and unhook the rope quickly.
 

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Yes there is overgrowth as you know BUT the hooves, as far as I can tell from the pics< look healthy.
In the pics I don't see hoof wall separation. The base looks good.
In some of our dairy goats we can get that kind of growth in a month. Usually it will roll a bit.

For some goats that area will fill with mud, manure, spent/decaying hay and can cause issues like rot, separation etc.

Hooves - good- bad- ugly- are definitely a heritable trait.
 
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