Green Acres Farm - LA

[Green Acres Farm]

We got into goats a little over a year ago, and in our herd of 16, 6 (yes, 6) are bucks...

Unfortunately, only one is a good quality, registered buck (a Saanen). AND, there are two sets of pretty much identical twins...

Anyways, if I can get rid of the rest of the bucks, I can get a good Nigerian Dwarf herdsire.

 

[OneFineAcre]

We got into goats a little over a year ago, and in our herd of 16, 6 (yes, 6) are bucks...

Unfortunately, only one is a good quality, registered buck (a Saanen). AND, there are two sets of pretty much identical twins...

Anyways, if I can get rid of the rest of the bucks, I can get a good Nigerian Dwarf herdsire.

Assuming I can get rid of the others, these are two I found that I thought liked good (but I have limited knowledge as far as show goats go)-

The first is $400, and the second is $375. Which one is better as far as you can tell?

http://mmacres.webstarts.com/armani.html

http://mmacres.webstarts.com/round-rock.html

This is a doe who has been exposed to a (seemingly) very good buck. She is $450. Would she be a good purchase as well?

http://mmacres.webstarts.com/kicks.html

Any opinions or advice?

Thanks!



@OneFineAcre
@Goat Whisperer
@Southern by choice
@babsbag

The first buck Armani, I personally know his dam's breeder Olde South, and the sire's breeder Little Tots Estate. His grandsire Luzifer Blue is my buck Big Brown's sire.

With that said the 2nd buck Round Rock is older in the picture so you can tell a little more about him, I think he looks nice.
His dam's udder seems better, better teat's .

I think either buck would be fine though

The young doe looks nice. I don't know much about the animals in her background.

 

[goatgurl]

if I were choosing one of the bucks just by the pictures I would probably go with #2. the udders in his pedigree look better than #1's. laying hands on them can tell you a lot more. I like #1's color better but you can't milk or show color. white is my least favorite color in an animal but I have 3 white does and have always chosen stature and production over color. as mama use to say, pretty is as pretty does. goes for goats too. be sure to let us know which one you pick. and as far as the doe, it would depend on what buck she is bred to. she was born in '14 yet they show no picture of her fresh. makes me go hmmm. her dam and maternal granddam have adequate but not supper udders. maybe the nigie folks will chime in soon. just saw that OFA answered. good luck with which ever you decide on.

 

[OneFineAcre]

The does' dam and maternal grand dam have nice big teats and strong medial. Very well defined halves to the udder. It doesn't look like either are really full in either picture.

ETA:

I would be curious as to how old her dam was when she was appraised. 86 VVVV isn't that great. But, pretty good if it was her first freshening.
Same with the sire. 85 VVV isn't that great but pretty good if the buck is a yearling.

 

[Southern by choice]

With that said the 2nd buck Round Rock is older in the picture so you can tell a little more about him, I think he looks nice.
His dam's udder seems better, better teat's .

X2

 

[OneFineAcre]

The doe has not kidded before. She is hopefully bred now to:
http://mmacres.webstarts.com/garland.html

I have seen his dam Lil Red and maternal grand dam Dumplin in person. Very solid animals.
I know Gypsy moon too. I don't know the sire but I've seen the grand sire Sudoku.

There are very good animals in his pedigree.
I think the doe bred to him would be worth $450.

 

[OneFineAcre]

@Green Acres Farm
Where are you located?
Lot's of southern goats I'm seeing there.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

By looking at the links, I'd choose the white buck.

I don't like the dams udder on the other buck. Looks like her udder could break down easily and if she isn't that full her udder would be blowing in the wind
Look at the side attachments, the dam of the white buck is far nicer. IMO.
NOT saying it's a bad buck, but I think the white buck is a better choice and worth the extra $25. Not everyone will agree, but that's the way I look at it.

 

[Green Acres Farm]

By looking at the links, I'd choose the white buck.

I don't like the dams udder on the other buck. Looks like her udder could break down easily and if she isn't that full her udder would be blowing in the wind
Look at the side attachments, the dam of the white buck is far nicer. IMO.
NOT saying it's a bad buck, but I think the white buck is a better choice and worth the extra $25. Not everyone will agree, but that's the way I look at it.

That is where I was surprised, the white is actually cheaper, the young one is $400, was before listed as $500... Maybe because of the Little Tots Estate pedigree, I'm guessing...

 

[Goat Whisperer]

The does' dam and maternal grand dam have nice big teats and strong medial. Very well defined halves to the udder. It doesn't look like either are really full in either picture.

ETA:

I would be curious as to how old her dam was when she was appraised. 86 VVVV isn't that great. But, pretty good if it was her first freshening.
Same with the sire. 85 VVV isn't that great but pretty good if the buck is a yearling.

Sire's LA
http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=D001637851

Dam's LA
http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail.aspx?RegNumber=D001579620

ETA: wont let me link it right to the LA That's just to the pedigree