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mistee

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ok I know it is only day 2 and I know it will take time for them to learn how to stand on the stand and be milked but sheeeeeesh,,,,lol.. One as soon as I touch her udder down she goes... How do you correct that??? I try to pull her up but her legs are like jello... The other just wont stop kicking and dancing.. I am going to order hobbles today.. I had her on the stand for 20 min today just playing w. her udder not even milking and all she did was dance and kick!!!!!

I need advise and encourgement not to give up,,,, please!!!! I really want to make soap and cheeses!!!
 

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I had one of those too!!! :barnie Its frustrating!! But the hobble is a good training tool for certain. Make sure you put it around her upper rear legs. When I first got it...it shows in the pic to put it on the ankles and it did'nt fit right and was an issue. So I put it on her upper rear legs where you can see the ligaments and she didnt move.

It only took a week and I took it off. It was an excellant tool for my kicker!! A friend who also has goats told me her Dad use to hold the back leg where the ligments is and if you squeeze the lig lightly they wont move their back leg. Amazingly..it worked!!

Good luck...Hope it works out for you!!
 

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Read up on operant conditioning (clicker training). When training a desired behavior, you dont correct unwanted behavior... you only reward desired behavior. So you have to make her think the goat stand is a great place... not punishment.

I dont milk my goats, but I did just buy a goat stand for grooming. I haven't actually started grooming them yet. just getting each one on the stand and to accept being touched and feet handled is my first goal.

I used raisins to reward them. Using only my hand I started touching their head and neck, reward with a few raisins. Then touch down their back and sides... more raisins. I rubbed each leg and picked up each foot... more raisins with each step. I had each goat on the stand for only about 5 minutes at a time, before letting them off.... keeping sessions short and easy, leaves them wanting more.

Id think you could easily do this for milking... it would just take a few sessions before she lets her back side get handled.... do it when shes hungry!

I have the stand out in their yard where they can see it and climb on it. When ever I go out there my buck Chip jumps on the stand, spins around and looks at me for his raisins and body rub down. LOL and of course, I want him to love the stand, so i oblige and at least give him the body rub down... he thinks hes training me.
 

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We ended up not using the goat stand. We tie her on a short leash to the stall post, and I sit on the floor and milk her. She's fine if she's got food. I keep a big cup full of grain behind me if her bowl gets empty and keep it comin'.
This was the most timid goat and we could not get near her!! Now she's getting used to us. But she hated the goat stand and would keep bending her front knees and slipping and sliding off the edge.
 

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Also, when they are turned out to pasture when we get our fence up I'm going to make the stand available for them to jump up on and get used to like the previous poster wrote. It was just too much for her as a first timer.
 

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both girls jump right up on the stand no issues,,,, it is the milking they dont like.. I have food in front of them but they dont care... I tried squeezing the leg ligs but didnt help,,, guess i wasnt holding tight enough...... Right now I am just trying to get them use to the idea then I will start seperating the baby and mommas at night. W/ hubbies help yesterday I was able to get some milk but going solo today it was just a battle,,lol...

How do I correct the one from laying down???
 

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I'm a newbie but I read putting a bucket under them helps.
 

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dur,,, something as simple as a bucket.... why didnt i think of that???lol!
 

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I've used a bucket under one of our does when she stages a sit down. I place it as far back as possible while still having room for the milk pail. Worked like a charm and she gave up on that pretty quick.
 
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