HELP! Need opinion on Disbudding ***PICS***

[jmsim93]

Hey Guys! I decided to have my first kids disbudded by a vet so I could forgo the pain and expense of doing it myself the first time around. He did a horrible job I think and I am wondering if I can go ahead and try again with a disbudding iron since the scurs are so small at this point? This is my doeling, Sadie...Caesar, her brother looks pretty much the same.

OPINIONS???

 

[SmallFarmGirl]

Mmmmm... You might be able too try again. I really don't know. He did DO A BAD JOB though.

 

[poorboys]

I would re-do it. It won't hurt him, has he had a tetnus or cdt yet? you might want to give it to him before you burn him again.

 

[CrazyCatNChickenLady]

Wow did he even hold the disbudding iron down? Please follow up with your vet. I'd say he needs to know that A. he sucks at it, and B. he really should fix his mistake. (although after that I probably wouldn't let him put another hand on my goat..) I think with them that size you would probably have to band them. When the girl that came up and helped me with my 4 she did it 5 seconds, snipped the bud, and did it for 5 more seconds. It looks great. I have a 10 week old that was done by the 'breeder' at 2 weeks and when I got him they look horrible and are scurring. Were there copper rings around the horn bud when done? I dont even see where the missing fur should be from doing it.. How old was she when it was done the first time?

Okay now after looking at the pictures more did he try and surgically remove them? or use a disbudding iron? From the way the tips look it looks like they were cut out, like a scalpal on buds that havent broken the skin yet, with completely failed results.

 

[jmsim93]

Wow did he even hold the disbudding iron down? Please follow up with your vet. I'd say he needs to know that A. he sucks at it, and B. he really should fix his mistake. (although after that I probably wouldn't let him put another hand on my goat..) I think with them that size you would probably have to band them. When the girl that came up and helped me with my 4 she did it 5 seconds, snipped the bud, and did it for 5 more seconds. It looks great. I have a 10 week old that was done by the 'breeder' at 2 weeks and when I got him they look horrible and are scurring. Were there copper rings around the horn bud when done? I dont even see where the missing fur should be from doing it.. How old was she when it was done the first time?

Okay now after looking at the pictures more did he try and surgically remove them? or use a disbudding iron? From the way the tips look it looks like they were cut out, like a scalpal on buds that havent broken the skin yet, with completely failed results.

He surgically cut them out and then burned them. He did shave the area slightly but the fur has already grown quite a bit. They had it done at 2 weeks old. I am VERY displeased!

 

[CrazyCatNChickenLady]

Here's a pic of one of my disbudded babies. Just for a comparason pic of the iron vs. cutting. They're 2 weeks old and this was done last sunday at 1 week old.. Not even my 10 week old that scurred grew horns back that fast, I'm worried your little ones are going to get a full set of horns with no 'tips'. I'd say thats better then really bad scurs but I know thats not what you want. I dont know if messing with it now will make them worse either so just be careful on what you choose to do.

By burning he probably just cauterized what he cut out to stop the bleeding. Has he done this procedure before? Did he tell you it might not take? If not I would be going in for a 'free' recheck. I've been all from a receptionist to an emergency tech in vets offices for the last 7 years and I'd say in this case I would be that person. Its like going in for a spay and having a pregnant cat a couple weeks later. Like the sedate-shave-and-OOPS-forgot-to-spay from a spay/neuter clinic. Do you mind saying how much this cost you? Was this the only thing the vet did to the both of them? Really I think it could be way worse, but this is definately not a properly disbudded goat!

 

[DonnaBelle]

We botched a disbudding with a disbudding iron one of the first times we did it. The buckling was around 4 weeks old by then.

I called our vet out, he just reburned over where we had not held the iron down long enough.

He is fine now, no horns.

I don't think your vet had an iron to disbud with. We invested $100.00 in a Rhinehart 50. It does a great job.

DonnaBelle

 

[CrazyCatNChickenLady]

We botched a disbudding with a disbudding iron one of the first times we did it. The buckling was around 4 weeks old by then.

I called our vet out, he just reburned over where we had not held the iron down long enough.

He is fine now, no horns.

I don't think your vet had an iron to disbud with. We invested $100.00 in a Rhinehart 50. It does a great job.

DonnaBelle

My thoughts exactly but I feel as if I'm fueling a fire that isn't mine.

Good to know it can potentially be 're'burned.

 

[jmsim93]

He said that he had done "plenty" of them and that surgical was the better way to go. He couldn't guarantee that they would not have scurs but it shouldn't be a problem. He charged me $15 a piece. I think I could have done a better job as a newbie with an iron!!!! I really don't have the money to invest in an iron right now...SO FRUSTRATED!!!

 

[Queen Mum]

Don't have the vet do it, take the kid to someone with a disbudding iron. What can be done is burn off the buds and then hold the iron on the correct way over the buds. My breeder did that when I brought a doeling in a bit late.