BarredRockMomma
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This was on the news last night.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=22...y-sheep-killed-by-house-dogs&s_cid=featured-1
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=22...y-sheep-killed-by-house-dogs&s_cid=featured-1
I can't beleive some people
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Duhhh, my dog just got blamed for killing $20000 worth of sheep. I think I'm going to let it run loose again so it can get shot. Wow, the brain power just astounds me.
greybeard
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And I agree 100% with the statement that said the dog owners don't really know what their dogs can or will do once they are out in a pasture of livestock. Just because a family pet doesn't attack little Billy or Suzy, or the neighbor's pet doesn't mean they won't revert to millions of years of instinctive cannine behavior and chase or kill a sheep, goat or calf. I've seen it happen too many times, and al it takes is one dog amoung a bunch to turn the whole bunch into a wild like pack. Then they go back home and act just as they always have in front of their owners--nice cuddly little pets. Dogs, even in rural settings, should NOT be allowed to roam the countryside--ever.
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I also have to add the sheep owner is right. Even a domesticated dog instinct will kick in. My choco lab mix got in with the pigs once and as soon as he figured out how fun it was to chase them he was all about it. I had to go in there and get his annoying butt out and it wasn't easy. I guarantee he would have chewed on them a bit if he got a hold of them and further guarantee a pack dog mentality would have set in if there were more than one dog.
Although I feel bad for the dog that got shot I don't feel bad at all for the stupid arse owner. Ain't karma a biznatch now you see how the sheep owner felt. Except, oh yeah, your dog doesn't help put food on the table for you nor is it worth 20k to anyone. So I guess you got off easy.
Although I feel bad for the dog that got shot I don't feel bad at all for the stupid arse owner. Ain't karma a biznatch now you see how the sheep owner felt. Except, oh yeah, your dog doesn't help put food on the table for you nor is it worth 20k to anyone. So I guess you got off easy.
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BarredRockMomma
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I will be following this story and I will let you all know if/when they post charges.
The sad thing is that these dogs are most likley good at home and because the humans don't keep them secured in a yard they may be put down for doing what comes naturally,
The sad thing is that these dogs are most likley good at home and because the humans don't keep them secured in a yard they may be put down for doing what comes naturally,
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We've gotten most of the free ranging dogs "weeded out" in my community. After two or three were shot for chasing or killing calves, the rest of the new to the area neighbors decided on some underground fencing.
We have one dog, a German Shepherd, that is still running loose. He has "eyeballed" my goats a couple times, and tried to get in at one point, but our electric fence is pretty secure with a powerfull wallop. He went home screaming that time, but he will be back. I've made sure his owners know of the situation and the possible outcome, but he is still running loose. He is a sweet dog, and I hate to see anything happen to him, but once he figures out how to get in the pasture.....well, I'll do what I have to do.
At this point, I am pretty quick to shoot, esp cats. In the past two years, we have had one raccoon, two skunks, a horse, and two cats with a POSITIVE rabies. One of the cats, and one of the skunks were found within a mile of my house THIS YEAR! I have no idea if the neighbors cats and dogs are up to date on their shots, and with this rabies epidemic in my county, I'll take no chances. It's been argued that I dont have to worry because I keep my cats and dogs vaccinated against rabies. This is true, but the goats are not vaccinated........and neither is my husband, my kids or myself. I will try to call the owner if I know who the cat or dog belongs to, if possible.
Animal control around here is a joke. When I have called to report a dog for harassing livestock the response is "Just shoot 'em". It ticks me off to have to "Just shoot 'em".
My dogs stay in my yard. My mastiff has grown up around livestock and been well schooled in her farm manners. I would have a hard time believing that she would harass anyones livestock. However, if she is out of my yard, I have failed to protect her from folks that would lie, and I have failed to protect my neighbors livestock from the possibility that my dog gets a wild red hair and actually DOES chase livestock. If she left the farm, and was shot, it would be MY FAULT......regardless of whether she actually harassed livestock or not.
We have one dog, a German Shepherd, that is still running loose. He has "eyeballed" my goats a couple times, and tried to get in at one point, but our electric fence is pretty secure with a powerfull wallop. He went home screaming that time, but he will be back. I've made sure his owners know of the situation and the possible outcome, but he is still running loose. He is a sweet dog, and I hate to see anything happen to him, but once he figures out how to get in the pasture.....well, I'll do what I have to do.
At this point, I am pretty quick to shoot, esp cats. In the past two years, we have had one raccoon, two skunks, a horse, and two cats with a POSITIVE rabies. One of the cats, and one of the skunks were found within a mile of my house THIS YEAR! I have no idea if the neighbors cats and dogs are up to date on their shots, and with this rabies epidemic in my county, I'll take no chances. It's been argued that I dont have to worry because I keep my cats and dogs vaccinated against rabies. This is true, but the goats are not vaccinated........and neither is my husband, my kids or myself. I will try to call the owner if I know who the cat or dog belongs to, if possible.
Animal control around here is a joke. When I have called to report a dog for harassing livestock the response is "Just shoot 'em". It ticks me off to have to "Just shoot 'em".
My dogs stay in my yard. My mastiff has grown up around livestock and been well schooled in her farm manners. I would have a hard time believing that she would harass anyones livestock. However, if she is out of my yard, I have failed to protect her from folks that would lie, and I have failed to protect my neighbors livestock from the possibility that my dog gets a wild red hair and actually DOES chase livestock. If she left the farm, and was shot, it would be MY FAULT......regardless of whether she actually harassed livestock or not.
greybeard
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Taking personal responsibility.
I like.
Taking personal responsibility.
I like.
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redtailgal- I have a Mastiff too he is such an all around GOOD dog. So very well behaved especially for a puppy. I absolutely love this pup!!! He is also good around the livestock although I know he really wants to "play" with them so badly. One time he got a hold of one of my does through the fence he wanted to play. She hollered like someone was killing her and when I went out to check I thought for sure she would be hurt but there was nary a mark on her. He is so big but so gentle 
Love him!
Love him!what I'm curious about was how the dog's throat was slashed...by the bullet? Hmmm......
I've been attacked by too many dogs to believe "fluffy" isn't capable of being a heartless predator! My dog (growing up) was one of the ones who attacked me - my dad refused to believe that Zorro hurt me...cause he obviously didn't MEAN to grab my arm and fight me for it! (9 stiches later...)
Our neighbor's dog went after my daughter in our front yard not a couple months after we'd moved in. Got pretty close to her face and wouldn't respond to me yelling at it. The next day...I put up a fence on the property line...5' high...the dog could still technically clear it...but my point was made. I figured, if the dog didn't have EASY access to our yard and us...and was STILL in our yard...I was MUCH more likely to get away with "we've done everything possible to deter their dog...we HAD to use lethal force" in case it came to that. The neighbors were surprised that their dog had gone after our daughter...but they were thankful for the fence. Hasn't been a problem since. Now our dog is up at all hours of the night...barking at the wind!
A fence makes for good neighbors!
I've been attacked by too many dogs to believe "fluffy" isn't capable of being a heartless predator! My dog (growing up) was one of the ones who attacked me - my dad refused to believe that Zorro hurt me...cause he obviously didn't MEAN to grab my arm and fight me for it! (9 stiches later...)
Our neighbor's dog went after my daughter in our front yard not a couple months after we'd moved in. Got pretty close to her face and wouldn't respond to me yelling at it. The next day...I put up a fence on the property line...5' high...the dog could still technically clear it...but my point was made. I figured, if the dog didn't have EASY access to our yard and us...and was STILL in our yard...I was MUCH more likely to get away with "we've done everything possible to deter their dog...we HAD to use lethal force" in case it came to that. The neighbors were surprised that their dog had gone after our daughter...but they were thankful for the fence. Hasn't been a problem since. Now our dog is up at all hours of the night...barking at the wind!
A fence makes for good neighbors!
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Been there. Most of the time just warning the neighbors is enough and if that doesn't work letting our own dogs out send a message to the dog does work. Our dogs aren't friendly to strange dogs. And it has probably saved us countless sheep. We leave our wandering dogs in a fenced area unless we are out with them. Sadly our main problem comes from dogs people dump in the country side thinking a ranch will take them in. We have taken in some of the ones we do find but most the time they run hungry and bullet shy from one farm to another until they eventually get shot.
$20,000.....Those poor people.
$20,000.....Those poor people.
