Baymule
Herd Master
Do topical ointments help? We use one called ArniCare. It is made from Arnica Montana and it works, instantly. My husband had knee replacement surgery and I rubbed his knee with ArniCare. Fabulous stuff. I have knee pain from worn out cartilage and the ArniCare reaches in deep to numb the pain. We buy 6 at a time.
https://www.amazon.com/Boiron-M1072352-Arnicare-Cream-Ounce/dp/B00DEYEREY
https://www.amazon.com/Boiron-M1072352-Arnicare-Cream-Ounce/dp/B00DEYEREY