Milk Goiters and Minerals

[samssimonsays]

AHHHH I brought home my two babies yesterday and didn't realize I needed minerals? HOW COULD I DO THAT!!! So the lady said they'd be ok without them for a night and to pick them up today. Ok, So I will go to the feed store, no biggie... BUT.... WHAT DO I NEED. I am really not totally freaking out but I am concerned that I will get the wrong ones.... Do they NEED minerals or is it a preference? They were on only hay and minerals with a bit of feed, just weaned from mom. I bought a goat/sheep feed my feed store makes themselves so I know where everything is coming from. Is there an absolute NEED for feed when there is grass, hay and brush readily available? I bought a 50# bag and it isn't cost I am worried about, I heard there are urinary issues with wethers or there can be depending on their feed? It is really all new to me and a lot to take in. I want to do this right for them and make sure they are healthy and happy, OH BOY ARE THEY HAPPY!

Another question is, I was told by someone who saw her photo it looks like sweet Thelma has a goiter/milk muff? That it could be linked to an iodine deficiency? She was born 3/3/15 and was just weaned fully yesterday when I brought them home... Is this something I need to be concerned with and treat with betadine, or is it normal? She was also puffed up from the dogs upsetting her in her first hour in her new home... could that be a cause as well?

Here are a couple pictures of her. I guess I never noticed it before...

 

[BlessedWithGoats]

Goats need copper, more so than what you would find in a feed mix for sheep and goats. You would probably want to buy a feed made especially for goats, since it'll have the higher amounts of copper in it... copper isn't good for sheep in such amounts though! I just started buying a loose mineral, made by Manna Pro, called Goat Mineral. You would give that to them free choice... just watch them to make sure they don't go after it ALL the time; if they're gorging themselves on it, only give them a little at a time, maybe once a day? Also, I was told that the feed can give urinal problems for the boys too, so I would probably stay away from it to be on the safe side, and just give them the minerals. Please note though, I am not a professional, and I would wait to see if anyone else has superior advice to mine.
Best wishes to you!

 

[samssimonsays]

Thank you! Can their mineral be given in a food dish like at a meal time? where I can monitor who gets how much?

 

[BlessedWithGoats]

Sure, you can definitely give it to them in a food dish! That's actually kinda what I do too! I put it in one of those small rubber dishes, which works good! I would just watch when you put it out there to make sure that nobody goes and starts pigging down on it; they'll probably be after it at first, but they shouldn't stay there and keep gobbling till it's gone, most likely. If it don't seem like either one of them is going after it too much, you probably won't have to worry about it. I would just keep an eye on them for anything unusual. (excessive gobbling, etc.).

 

[samssimonsays]

Thanks! I put it in their food for dinner? I hope that was OK.... but they didn't seem interested in it otherwise. Sniffed it and looked at me like I was starving them. Because they didn't just spend from 5 until 8 out of their fence walking the yard and grazing with me...

 

[BlessedWithGoats]

Thanks! I put it in their food for dinner? I hope that was OK.... but they didn't seem interested in it otherwise. Sniffed it and looked at me like I was starving them. Because they didn't just spend from 5 until 8 out of their fence walking the yard and grazing with me...

You're welcome! I've heard that people put it in their food, I don't see why that should be a problem for you. If they don't want it all, it might find it's way to the bottom of the food dish.
If you do decide to just leave some out, and you keep it in a dry place and only put a small amount at a time, it should last them at least a couple of days. My goats usually end up tipping the bowl over! Except for Cookie, she's pretty good about not doing that.
Lol! It seems like goats are ALWAYS hungry!! They do get full I'm sure, but it seems like they're pretty much always hungry!

 

[BlessedWithGoats]

AHHHH I brought home my two babies yesterday and didn't realize I needed minerals? HOW COULD I DO THAT!!! So the lady said they'd be ok without them for a night and to pick them up today. Ok, So I will go to the feed store, no biggie... BUT.... WHAT DO I NEED. I am really not totally freaking out but I am concerned that I will get the wrong ones.... Do they NEED minerals or is it a preference? They were on only hay and minerals with a bit of feed, just weaned from mom. I bought a goat/sheep feed my feed store makes themselves so I know where everything is coming from. Is there an absolute NEED for feed when there is grass, hay and brush readily available? I bought a 50# bag and it isn't cost I am worried about, I heard there are urinary issues with wethers or there can be depending on their feed? It is really all new to me and a lot to take in. I want to do this right for them and make sure they are healthy and happy, OH BOY ARE THEY HAPPY!

Another question is, I was told by someone who saw her photo it looks like sweet Thelma has a goiter/milk muff? That it could be linked to an iodine deficiency? She was born 3/3/15 and was just weaned fully yesterday when I brought them home... Is this something I need to be concerned with and treat with betadine, or is it normal? She was also puffed up from the dogs upsetting her in her first hour in her new home... could that be a cause as well?

Here are a couple pictures of her. I guess I never noticed it before...
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Cute goat! That first picture of her reminds me of my goat Latte!

 

[babsbag]

Put the minerals out free choice all the time; they won't OD on them. They will determine what they need and when they need it as far as the minerals.

You can get Ammonium Chloride and add it the feed for the wethers or sometimes pelleted feed will have it added already, some minerals may too. A lot of the feed for meat goats will have the AC in it. All my boys get alfalfa hay and free choice minerals 365 days a year, no grain at all and they are fine.

Do not treat milk goiter with iodine; it is not an iodine deficiency, it is an enlarged thymus gland and it will go away on its own. You can OD them on iodine and it can burn their skin. Iodine deficiency in goats causes low weight, slow growth, and they will be born bald or with very thin hair. They may have a swollen thyroid gland but it will be quite noticeable at birth. I had some born this way last year and they only lived for a few minutes. Google milk goiter, there is a bunch of information out there, it is harmless.

 

[samssimonsays]

Thank you all so much! I had questions to prepare myself before I got them, and now there is a whole slew of NEW ones I have to admit... I have wondered what I just got myself into a few times such as with this instance... and when I caught Olaf (Now Ollie) butt up on top of the feed canister and head down into the bag of steam rolled oats for my rabbits... Looks as if I will be getting more feed barrels very soon

 

[babsbag]

Don't let the goats into any of the feed free choice it can make them very sick and that includes chicken feed. Corn and oats is like candy to them and not good at all. They can get grain overload,( i.e. acidosis ) and I don't want to scare you, but it can kill them. Keep all the feed locked away safe and sound, they WILL knock over barrels and do amazing things to get to feed like that. The teenagers can crawl through pop doors for coops too so watch that as well. Mine on occasion get into the alfalfa hay and even that will give them dog poop log stools and they eat that everyday; it is all about quantity.