miscarriage - need advice/pros v cons

Vickir73

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Zoey was due last Thursday (June 27th). The former owner and I met at a show to exchange goats. She was approx. 4 months along at that time and HUGE, she was also quite a bit overweight. Her udder was filling out nicely. We brought her home and I'm positive the baby has died. There is no movement whatsoever and her udder has stopped developing.

Vet's office does not do ultrasounds.

Dilemma. (1) Do I continue to see if she is going to pass it on her own (2) hope she reabsorbs and everything is ok or (3) vet's visit and administer the shot to miscarry.

Also, if I do get her the shot to go into labor, if the baby(ies) have been dead a couple of weeks, would they be delivered intact and if they aren't how do I know she got everything out? Would she still pass afterbirth?

Since this is my first experience with this, I'm leaning toward vet's office, but please let me know anyone else has faced this. A couple of other breeders I've talked to said she will reabsorb; however, I'm leary of her being able to reabsorb and intact fetus (if there was only one) and I don't this to cause any future breeding problems.
 

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If was me (I don't have goats) I would find someone to ultrasound her or just wait and see if she seems ok otherwise. It can very hard on them to abort.also.most mammals can have very real false pregnancies too.
 

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If she was only due last thursday, even if that is day 150, she could still have another day or 2 if the breeding was the only possible time she could have taken, If it was day 145, then several days would still be normal. A few breeders have mentioned that one or 2 of their girls have gone over their due dates by a few days, so the date on the calendar is less to worry about than if she looks healthy and bright, alert etc. With my does, sometime around the last month, they look far less pregnant. Like not at all and I will be convinced that I imagined everything, until they do in fact produce a couple of kids out of thin air. The babies could just be in a position that they are harder to feel at this point as they should be getting ready to come out if all is well. As for her udder, Georgias udder stayed the same size and texture for about the last 3 weeks, no change whatsoever until she kidded. I wouldn't use the udder as much of a gauge for how the pregnancy is progressing. If you really feel she miscarried, the best thing would be to search for a vet experienced in goats and go from there.
 

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ragdoll, I am going to give her until this Friday before I make a trip to the vet's office. Maybe I'll come home and viola she will have birthed out a perfect buck :) (I'm actually wanting a buck this time). One of the things I've noticed is she has lost some weight since she's come to my house (at first I just thought the kid might have repositioned himself) but I don't know and her udder has just stopped filling, it appears that it's shrinking - like she's drying up.

I really don't know and I called another vet's office and "we don't do ultrasounds on GOATS!" - well excuse the hell out of me for asking. So I have no vet in town that will do ultrasounds and only 1 that I really even trust to see my goats and then that vet really only deals with dogs, cats & bigger animals (horses, cows). I'm pretty much on my own when it comes to my poultry and it's kinda iffy with my goats.
 

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She will get sick or go into heat if the baby is dead, I would just give her more time. No way she is carrying full term dead fetus and not going to act off or sick.
 

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20kidsonhill said:
She will get sick or go into heat if the baby is dead, I would just give her more time. No way she is carrying full term dead fetus and not going to act off or sick.
x2.

I have had them go to 161 days. I also had a friend that induced labor on a doe that she thought was way overdue. Well, she wasn't overdue at all and had a very sad outcome to that experience. The owner felt horrible.

If the babies have died she will be sick and or abort. She can't reabsorb something that far along.

Are you positive of the date of the breeding?
 
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