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So sorry for your piglet loss. That just sucks...
Thank you

Sure sorry about the rest of the litter misfit :( I guess I don't know much about pigs to understand how that happens.

Combination of things.
Problems:
We didnt have a heat lamp up
We over bedded the new stall(weren't expecting piglets and our pigs eat hay so normally not a problem)
We moved a pig less then 24hrs before farrow
First time mom
New stall with new bedding means we had no composting heat just cold cement under the bedding

Heat lamp obviously is a problem because its cold here like in the 20-30s at night and 50s daytime, piglets need 85-95F for the first few days.
Over bedding and a new momma with crazy hormones often means over nesting. Over nesting is an issue because the piglets will get lost in the bedding or trapped in it and get laid on or against or not be able to get to the teat to nurse.

Moving a pig so close to farrowing causes a huge stress load on the mommas, they will often abort, eat their babies, freak out on anything within reach, show obvious signs of stress such as grinding teeth, pacing, barking, jumping, restless, darting eyes, lack of appetite, etc. You have to think they have spent several weeks preparing the area they will farrow in perfectly for their babies, let the other pigs know this is their nest, know their stall mates, know their routine....then suddenly they are jerked out of it to this alien new place and often seem to freak out not knowing the threats to their babies they might find.

Obviously any first time mother of anything generally only has instinct to go on and they do make mistakes. Spot is a excellent mother to any piglets even those she didnt have and she even makes mistakes sometimes. In her current litter she laid on two of them. Honestly she tries very hard to be careful but your talking a 400+lb sow trying to keep track of 7-14 piglets that are 2-3lbs who are all swarming under and around her to get to milk or warmth. All of our sows are very good at being careful, they will walk to a new spot and slowly lay down. Giving piglets enough time to move however newborns are not the smartest and often they just dont move. So the poor momma who just had X number of piglets an hour ago has to jump back up, walk to a new spot and try again. We have watched our sows do this up to a dozen times in a row before kind of giving up and laying down. Piglets squeal bloody murder so the momma will kind of wiggle hoping they move but sometimes they can't or don't. I dont really blame the sows, they are tired and trying to lay down so slow, standing up, trying again over and over its understandable. First time mommas also often don't know exactly what they are suppose to do, they can be confused like any other animal. This tiny alien trying to latch onto you to do who knows what.

Generally for winter we use a composting floor. Seeing as it was a brand new stall there was nothing to compost to make heat.

Mostly human failures lead to the loss. We have learned, we now have heat lamps a plenty and are putting up kushing boards in the farrow stalls.
 

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So sorry about your baby piggies. I know that you and your husband take very good care of your animals. We all make mistakes and we all want to kick ourselves sometimes. But we learn from it and move on. Big hugs.
 

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Ok so we have 6 new sheep.
New White, New Brown, New Small Brown, New Wooly Brown, New Black And Greg the Ram. You may have noticed they don't have names. Our friend has had a rough year and is now going thru a nasty divorce, so he called us up and said come get the sheep. So we did....

We have 5 new (we think) ewes. We have not checked sex as he didn't have them sheared this year so they are currently wearing 2yrs of wool. They are rather large sheep but the wool is only maybe 4in from the ground so they look oddly squat. As far as breed we only know they are polypay and bond mixed with who knows. Our white polypay came from that same herd about 3yrs ago....i believe the new white sheep is her sister. The bond comes from DHs bond ram he had when i met him 5yrs ago, the ram was traded to our friend 4yrs go and died we believe last winter. He was an old ram and had a pretty good life.

The new ewes all gave twins last year and have never been wormed or had CDT. Have not done famcha yet but we did feel them down and they are really good weight for going into winter. He has been breeding this "type" of sheep for at least 7yrs and has never wormed them or given CDT. The approx. 4yrs we have known him he has not lost a single sheep or lamb to parasites or bloat. They do not get any type of mineral, and are only grained with shell corn. I am at a loss how these sheep are so healthy and hardy while ours keep dying despite giving them everything we are "suppose" too.

We are discussing breeding our big suffolk ram to the "mutts" next breeding season(fall 2019) and then using Captain into the mutt lambs for fall 2020 to see if the resistance comes thru. That would give us 75% Suffolk 25% mutt in the 2020 lambs plus our pure suffolk lambs.

Latte, Espresso, Ivy, little buck, and Fate are all out in the pasture. Phoebe and Big Boy are in the shop, after she is bred Phoebe will go back to pasture. Little buck will go back to the shop to buddy for big boy until we get them a pen built.

So it seems this year we will be expecting 4-8 goats kids and 18 lambs. oh boy!
 

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You have taken animal math to a whole new level. :)
IT seems so!

Things are really moving along at your place!
Baby steps was the plan lol

Yay! More sheep! Tough, hardy, mutts that survive and thrive! Pictures of these lovelies?
I knew someone was gonna ask for pictures. I don't have any yet. By the time they got home and in the pen and chores done it was dark, last night i worked late and it was dark when i got home. I will try tonight.
 
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