New Breed?

New Breed?

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SchönFarbe

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I was wondering how difficult would it be to officially create a new breed of goat?
 

bloonskiller911

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I would say lots of paperwork and very hard. you would definitely need to show generations of work. and that they breed true, and continue to breed true. you would have to write up breed standards and functionality too, not impossible though.

what are you breeding?
 

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Dairy breed with a little meat thrown in. The brown goat would be the doe. And the white one would be the Buck.
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I was reading an article in one of my sheep! magazines about someone who wrote a letter to the editor about how easy/difficult it would be to start a new breed of sheep. One of the main points was "What does this breed do that another breed doesn't?" Livestock are primarily bred for production purposes--usually leaning more towards terminal, maternal, or "dual purpose" traits. For example, with goats, you have meat and dairy breeds. Within those categories you have more breeds. For example, with meat goats, you have Savannah, Kiko, and Boer goats. Boers are the ultimate terminal sire. Savannah and Kiko goats, though meat goats, are primarily a maternal breed, focusing on day-to-day management (hardiness, parasite resistance, mothering ability, prolificacy, etc) rather than the end product (lbs of kid weaned, carcass characteristics, etc, as is the case with Boer goats). Dairy goats you have the high milk producers, the high fat producers, etc. Each one has a purpose, a niche, to fill that another breed doesn't.

What would make your crossbred meat x dairy goats different than another crossbred herd that someone is breeding to suit their specific needs. And to create a breed, you need a large enough scale that you can create many different lines with the same traits that breed true but are not closely related so you can have a sustainable population without too much inbreeding.

And when crossbreeding your goats to "create" a breed, you want the best specimens to use in the creation of the breed. Your breed will only be as good as the goats used to create it. How is their health? Temperament? Comformation? Production? For the meat goats, do you have growth rates and adjusted weaning weights? How about carcass scans? For the dairy goats used, do you have litter size information? Do you have milk production and fat production information? All of this requires extensive record keeping to ensure the traits are breeding true and you can cull any outliers in the population.

Just crossing two goats is just that--crossing two goats and creating a crossbred goat, no different than the millions of other crossbred goats. It takes extensive planning and preparation and record keeping to produce a breed. Oh and don't forget marketing... how are you going to get people to buy into your breed? Again, what sets this goat a part from other goats that fills a need that may or may not need to be filled?
 

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I was reading an article in one of my sheep! magazines about someone who wrote a letter to the editor about how easy/difficult it would be to start a new breed of sheep. One of the main points was "What does this breed do that another breed doesn't?" Livestock are primarily bred for production purposes--usually leaning more towards terminal, maternal, or "dual purpose" traits. For example, with goats, you have meat and dairy breeds. Within those categories you have more breeds. For example, with meat goats, you have Savannah, Kiko, and Boer goats. Boers are the ultimate terminal sire. Savannah and Kiko goats, though meat goats, are primarily a maternal breed, focusing on day-to-day management (hardiness, parasite resistance, mothering ability, prolificacy, etc) rather than the end product (lbs of kid weaned, carcass characteristics, etc, as is the case with Boer goats). Dairy goats you have the high milk producers, the high fat producers, etc. Each one has a purpose, a niche, to fill that another breed doesn't.

What would make your crossbred meat x dairy goats different than another crossbred herd that someone is breeding to suit their specific needs. And to create a breed, you need a large enough scale that you can create many different lines with the same traits that breed true but are not closely related so you can have a sustainable population without too much inbreeding.

And when crossbreeding your goats to "create" a breed, you want the best specimens to use in the creation of the breed. Your breed will only be as good as the goats used to create it. How is their health? Temperament? Comformation? Production? For the meat goats, do you have growth rates and adjusted weaning weights? How about carcass scans? For the dairy goats used, do you have litter size information? Do you have milk production and fat production information? All of this requires extensive record keeping to ensure the traits are breeding true and you can cull any outliers in the population.

Just crossing two goats is just that--crossing two goats and creating a crossbred goat, no different than the millions of other crossbred goats. It takes extensive planning and preparation and record keeping to produce a breed. Oh and don't forget marketing... how are you going to get people to buy into your breed? Again, what sets this goat a part from other goats that fills a need that may or may not need to be filled?
Very well put.
 

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agree with what SheepGirl said. if you want milk in your meat goats or meat in your milk goats then breed your milking doe to a meat buck and work from there. you will need excellent goats of both breeds to come up with what you want and need. new breed? nope but a cross breed that suits your needs. good luck
 

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IDGA, is a registry that would be perfect to create a new breed with. You would have to fill out paper work, but it's really cheap through this registry. You would have to come up with breed standards, and send it in. Ears, height, colors accepted, ect. But, it's not inpossible to do it. I may try my hand at it in the near future. But, I have a IDGA membership, and the junior membership was $5. Then, registering goats is $5 each. Don't know the exact fees for new breed but, you can email them, they are very helpful.
 

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I love goats I soon want a fainting goat But making a new breed sounds o' lot o' fun but ain't easy :clap
 

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I am all for paperwork, and thinking. Gives me something to do while still being involved with goats.
 

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Ok so I am into the whole cart goat thing and dairy goats, so I was going to cross my La Mancha Saanen cross buck with my Nubian Kiko Boar cross doe lamancha and sannen for there high milk production Nubian for the high quality milk and Kiko Boar for the size and muscle mass for the carts
(Sorry for spelling errors)
 
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