Newbie question: what does it mean?

[NH homesteader]

@Southern by choice those are some gorgeous goats. Love the kiko look!

 

[Southern by choice]

@Southern by choice those are some gorgeous goats. Love the kiko look!

Thanks. I LOVE the Kikos. When we move we will be building the herd back up.
I really miss some of these girls.

 

[Craig MacDonald]

I think I'm probably more confused than when I began, but it's OK because we're raising for meet, have no plans to show, and just want good healthy stock.

Maybe there is someplace that has all of this, but what's the meaning of the following terms:
Commercial
Fullblood
Purebred

And if we're just raising for meat is there any reason not to just get commercial grade goats??

 

[babsbag]

Commercial is not registered and quite possibly no record of the ancestry or no way to prove its ancestry.

Fullblood can be traced back to Boer blood for generations on end; no other breed, and no unknown breeds.

Purebred is a goat that has unknown or non-Boer in its ancestry, but meets the required percentage of known Boer to be registered with ABGA as a purebred.

No reason at all to raise only commercial goats.

 

[ragdollcatlady]

Commercial grade goats are just fine for meat and usually cheaper to purchase.

Sometimes you will find pedigreed animals have more effort put into increasing the meat qualities in the offspring, but then you have the added expense since more effort usually means a breeder expects more of a return on animals for sale.

 

[Southern by choice]

Commercial
Fullblood
Purebred

And if we're just raising for meat is there any reason not to just get commercial grade goats??

Commercial is not registered and quite possibly no record of the ancestry or no way to prove its ancestry.

Not necessarily true.
We have commercial bucks that are commercial because most bucks from most registries cannot be registered until they reach that specified percentage.

IOW "Tray" our "Commercial" Kiko - we know his parentage. Know his whole background but he was only 75% Kiko so not able to be registered.
He was Spanish(high percent) Nubian (low percent) & Kiko and sired by a registered Kiko. The does were all registered as percentages. Bucks could not be because of their percentages.

 

[Southern by choice]

If selling strictly for meat then commercial is the way to go.
Not wise to eat good breeding stock.

 

[babsbag]

Commercial is not registered and quite possibly no record of the ancestry or no way to prove its ancestry.

IOW "Tray" our "Commercial" Kiko - we know his parentage. Know his whole background but he was only 75% Kiko so not able to be registered.
He was Spanish(high percent) Nubian (low percent) & Kiko and sired by a registered Kiko. The does were all registered as percentages. Bucks could not be because of their percentages.

That is why I said quite possibly no record of the ancestry.

 

[Ferguson K]

Great discussion! I just saw this.

 

[babsbag]

I was fortunate that when I started with Boers a few years back I had a great mentor that had already figured all of this out and could explain it to me. I wanted to breed for color and spots and I wanted them registered so I needed to find a buck that was registered that would help me meet my goals. Many of the spotted Purebred bucks have Nubian blood in them, that is how they "made" the spots. So it takes a lot of generations for those bucks to reach Purebred status. The buck I finally bought was 97%, the minimum to be registered as a Purebred. Fullblood bucks are just that, 100% Boer.

When I decided to start a dairy I sold all of my Boers, most of them to @ragdollcatlady so now I just drool over the spots from her pictures.