not again...this time it looks like LICE! UPDATE AND ?

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so, we FINALLY got the stanchion fully complete, and just now noticed what would appear to be LICE all over the first doe we stuck up on it! Now what? Keep in mind we have 3 nigi/pygmy does, one for sure is preggers, one in milk, one idk (she doesnt like to be touched, hold still, etc...hard to tell). Someone tell me what to do...we have been concentrating on things like feeding, being able to handle them and hoof trimming ( can you say hot mess everyone of them?) plus dealing with the sick baby that they came with...how does one go about setting this straight? Because if one has it, i'd bet all 3 do...eagerly awaiting advice...again....
 

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If you want to continue milking, use PYTHON DUST. It is safe for use on dairy livestock, pregnant livestock and safe enough to use on newborns! I know they say to do a second dose after 10-12 days, but my girls never needed a second dose. they haven't had a trace of lice since I put the initial treatment on them. It is a dust, so you will need a dust mask and it is reccommended that you use rubber gloves(not the medical type, more like what you would use handling chemicals)
 

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Is python good for both sucking and biting lice? And how about mites? I don't know that we need it for sure, but I'm concerned about Sevin now that babies are so close to due.
 

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Our7Wonders said:
Is python good for both sucking and biting lice? And how about mites? I don't know that we need it for sure, but I'm concerned about Sevin now that babies are so close to due.
And how does one tell the difference between SUCKING and Biting lice? Can I get 'em? The kids? Dogs? Horses? Chickens? Lord...what have I agreed to by giving these goats a home? Do I need to clean their home and burn all the bedding? Dust the chickens as well now? In a minor panic at the moment, my wife is going to KILL me if she finds out they have lice!
 

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google images for biting lice and sucking lice. one has a bigger fatter head than the other. It will kill both types and that I know of, it will also kill mites. goat lice won't tranfer off of a goat and onto you, your kids, or your things. You CAN dust your chickens, or you can just give them a dusting bed and add some of the dust to that bed.
 

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GrowURown said:
Our7Wonders said:
Is python good for both sucking and biting lice? And how about mites? I don't know that we need it for sure, but I'm concerned about Sevin now that babies are so close to due.
And how does one tell the difference between SUCKING and Biting lice? Can I get 'em? The kids? Dogs? Horses? Chickens? Lord...what have I agreed to by giving these goats a home? Do I need to clean their home and burn all the bedding? Dust the chickens as well now? In a minor panic at the moment, my wife is going to KILL me if she finds out they have lice!
Don't panic - from what I understand lice are species specific. So, while all your goats are likely to have them, you, your family, and your chickens should be safe. Mites I'm not sure about - can anyone tell us if they are species specific too?

It's not as horrible as it seems - if it's lice the python dust should work. If you're not opposed to chemcial wormers apparantly the 1% ivermectin has worked well for some on here at just 1cc per 125 pounds for lice/mite infestations, given sub Q. Have your goats been wormed at all? If not, (and again, if your not opposed to it, I kinda am if I can avoid it) a general worming might take care of ANY nasties your dealing with, both internal and external. If you're going that route it's the same ivemectin that you use, but you dose it higher and drench it (orally). There's lots of info in that in past threads if you decided to go that route. Taking droppings in to a vet can let you know if your dealing with any internal issues as well. My vet charges only $15 to run a fecal - droppings must be fresh.

If they are good on the inside then Cylence pour on or dusting seem to be the method of choice. You'll likely want to treat a second, possibly even a third to make sure you've gotten all the life cycles. I don't think you have to burn anything - just a good clean out and a throrough dusting of their bedding and main areas that they hang out in.
 

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I beleive goat lice is species specific, another words, only goats can get them.
 

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Thank the good lord to hear that! I'm going to search for and purchase some of that stuff ASAP...I saw those lice and was just picturing having to pick heads around here....and four legged bodies...and the chickens....oh I CRINGED! Python dust it is! Oh! and THANKS THANKS AND THANKS AGAIN! I am finding every day that I love goat people more and more!
 

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Actually you can use Eprinex on a milking doe (ivermec brand) and there's no milk withdrawl. It will get lice, mites and worms. :)
 

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Okay...wait a minute....so then, what about generic Ivermectin paste wormer? I have that on hand already from the horses...would that work? Just asking...I want to get this fixed ASAP! I SWEAR I can feel my scalp itching and twitching...you know, that I had a bug on me feeling? I only get that feeling with spiders...and LICE! :barnie
 

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