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mabeane

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My ND is so big with"kids" she has prolapsed!:( She is less than 2 weeks from kidding and looks miserable. She is an older doe and has been large since Dec. The prolapse is till going back in when she stands but my it looks awful.
This is new territory for me so any help would be appreciated.
 

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I can help you with this, My first doe prolapsed this year.

As long as it keeps going back in, she should be fine. Try and sneak behind her while she is laying down and sprinkle sugar on it.
Be careful she isn't in too tight of quarters with other animals and it gets stepped on.

If it doesn't go back in and she is straining, wash with warm water and cover with sugar and take her for a relaxing walk.

Our vet. told us not to do anything like hoof trimming or antibiotics shots and stress her out, but he said keeping her out in the field with the herd and getting some exercise was the best thing we could do for her.

If it gets to the point were it is really hanging out bad and wont go in then you will need to have a vet come out and put it back in and sew up her vulva.

This will mean you will have to pretty much live out in the barn to watch for signs of labor so you can cut the strings.

We didn't have to sew ours, there was a couple days it looked worse than others and we just kept pouring sugar on. Sugar is good for swelling and for germs.

She kidded out just fine, Once the cervix opens up and they go into labor the prolapse goes back in, and once they kid it doesn't come back.

She does have an increased risk of prolapsing next year.
 

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:) Thank you. That's the kind of practical advice I was looking for. She is definitely uncomfortable but the prolapse although it looks gross keeps going back in. I will get her moving around today.
 

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20kidsonhill said:
Sugar is good for swelling and for germs.
This made me curious, but I'm having a hard time finding any references to sugar as a germicide. Your vet told you this?
 

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n.smithurmond said:
20kidsonhill said:
Sugar is good for swelling and for germs.
This made me curious, but I'm having a hard time finding any references to sugar as a germicide. Your vet told you this?
I saw it on-line as a treatment for prolapses, and I have also seen it on one of those rescue shows on TV, treating a badlly enjured leg of a horse. They packed it right in the wound and wrapped it up.

And when I asked our vet, he said the sugar would help pull out the moisture and swelling and help fight off the germs.
I am not positive if it is consider a germicide or exactly what roll it plays with this.

maybe someone else can tell us.

Edited to add""" Look up, "healing wounds with sugar"
 

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Found something:


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Sugar_a_Preservative

""In a high enough concentration it can be. Cells (bacterial or otherwise) can only prevent osmosis across their membranes to a limited extent. When a solution is concentrated enough (i.e. hypertonic), it can dessicate the cells, therefore retarding microbial growth and rendering potential pathogens inert .

Some examples of sugar-based preservatives include various syrups (i.e. maple), honey, and fruit preserves (jams). In particular it is useful to note that jam does not require raising temperatures above 104C to kill botulinum spores; although most operations will pasteurize the stock to kill fungal spores which may grow on the top layer of the jam due to recondensed water).""

It sounds like Sugar doesn't kill the existing germs, but can help inhibit the growth of germs.
 

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http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100105061149AAKYf9M


"Sugar: Sugar, an organic compound in the form of carbohydrate, has been used as a natural food preservative in many of the food items. Sugar sweetens the food product and inhibits the growth of microorganisms through the phenomenon of osmosis. Foods can be stored either in sugar syrup or in crystallized form, where the food to be stored is cooked in sugar till the point of crystallization. Sugar acts by drawing out water from the bacteria and other microorganisms, which either kills the bacteria or inhibits their growth."
 

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Yup - sugar. Works like a charm.

Another interesting suggestion is duct tape (1001 uses, indeed). Place gauze over the delicate area, and tape the girl down. Be sure to not impede urine flow or fecal elimination. For a mild prolapse, this can save having to have the doe sutured. Of course for sanitary reasons this would need to be changed daily.

A doe that prolapses has an 80% chance of doing it again - so this might be something you really have to consider for this doe in future breedings. If she does it again, she may need to be retired to pet status.
 
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