? re: registration from a goat neophyte *added link to ad*

[phoenixmama]

Ok, so I'm thinking about buying a 2 yo doe that is a purebred Nubian originally from a reputable herd here in AZ. Someone is selling her on CL. According to the people that have her, she isn't registered. Now, if she really did come from the herd they say she did...then her parents are most likely registered.

Question 1: If both parents are registered, can she still be registered?
Question 2: How do I find out about her lineage...from ADGA or from the breeders?

They are only asking $100 for her, and I want to do my homework before dropping $100.

Thanks!

One more quick thing...the add says she's 2 yo, 2nd freshening, but not currently milking. Huh? How would that be, unless they dried her up?

 

[ksalvagno]

If she isn't currently registered and the registration in the name of the current owner, you are going to have to do A LOT of leg work to POSSIBLY get this goat registered. You would be better off going to the original herd of registered goats and spending more money and getting an actual registered goat. Especially being new in the goat business, you don't want to start out with the aggravation of TRYING to get a goat registered. Many times if a goat was sold unregistered, then the original owner would want some more money to have the registration done.

It is certainly possible that they just let her dry up when the kids were weaned but I would want to make sure there are no problems.

 

[phoenixmama]

If she isn't currently registered and the registration in the name of the current owner, you are going to have to do A LOT of leg work to POSSIBLY get this goat registered. You would be better off going to the original herd of registered goats and spending more money and getting an actual registered goat. Especially being new in the goat business, you don't want to start out with the aggravation of TRYING to get a goat registered. Many times if a goat was sold unregistered, then the original owner would want some more money to have the registration done.

It is certainly possible that they just let her dry up when the kids were weaned but I would want to make sure there are no problems.

Thanks for the advice! I think you are right, it probably wouldn't be worth the cheap price tag. Besides, if I were going to buy another right now, I'd really want one in milk. So, I'll look elsewhere.

 

[Mea]

If she isn't currently registered and the registration in the name of the current owner, you are going to have to do A LOT of leg work to POSSIBLY get this goat registered. You would be better off going to the original herd of registered goats and spending more money and getting an actual registered goat. Especially being new in the goat business, you don't want to start out with the aggravation of TRYING to get a goat registered. Many times if a goat was sold unregistered, then the original owner would want some more money to have the registration done.

It is certainly possible that they just let her dry up when the kids were weaned but I would want to make sure there are no problems.

Thanks for the advice! I think you are right, it probably wouldn't be worth the cheap price tag. Besides, if I were going to buy another right now, I'd really want one in milk. So, I'll look elsewhere.

However..... IF she comes from a herd that has a Good reputation... She could be valuable even if You registered her as a Recorded Grade. Check her ears for tatoos. That could give You a starting point to find out about her.

ADGA will Not give out information on an animal from just the tatoos. Not even the breeder's name.

A decent goat from a Good herd is a Good investment. If there are issues then mebbe not.

 

[phoenixmama]

Oh for crying out loud...I had a whole long reply typed out and stupidly lost it. :/

Here's a link to the ad:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/grd/1803129324.html

If you were interested in buying this goat, what would you ask them?

I am going to ask about CAE, CL, and G6S testing, why they dried her up, and what her lineage is...anything else?

 

[ksalvagno]

Do you care if they are registered or not? If you are just looking for a milking goat for the family, then I would want to know why they currently aren't milking them. I'd also ask about vaccinations, worming and CAE/CL/Johnes, etc. I would also want to see them in person and look for any lumps (sign of CL) or swollen knees/joints (sign of CAE) and just general living conditions and their health.

If you really want registered goats, then I would just move on and find registered goats.

They say they are moving and that is why they are selling them, so these goats could end up being gems but the big thing (aside from health issues) for you is if you really prefer registered or not.

As far as lineage, since they aren't registered, the only thing that would matter is milking lines and if they come from good milking lines and find out how easy they are to milk.

 

[Mea]

Oh for crying out loud...I had a whole long reply typed out and stupidly lost it. :/

Here's a link to the ad:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/grd/1803129324.html

If you were interested in buying this goat, what would you ask them?

I am going to ask about CAE, CL, and G6S testing, why they dried her up, and what her lineage is...anything else?

Personal Opinion only.... if there are no health issues...*I* think she could be a good investment. YMMV of course...