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[MidnightChickenLover]

These guys look like great animals, and I'm interested in having a few, but living in PA makes it hard to even find good goats from a state or two across when it vomes to meat goats. I'm working on expanding and improving my herd of boers (just got two little doelings!). I looked at all the registered breeders on Pedigree International, and only one has a website listed. Do you know of any websites? I find shipping the goats from Onion Creek a little too high for my budget, the goat price is perfect though, and I would like to see the parents in person (willing to drive pretty far)... Does anyone have any? Opinions?

 

[Roll farms]

Get some myotonics and boers and make your own.

SG (at OCR) is a master at self-promotion....create a mix and tag an impressive name on it and sell them in your area.

That's not sarcasm, I'm serious....if she can promote a mixed breed to the point where folks are willing to drive that far, anyone can.

Myself, I prefer Boer x Kiko....BoKis.

 

[TigerLilly]

Roll, I like that idea. Someone, somewhere came up with the nigis x (eg) nubian to make mini nubies. You could be on to something there...

 

[jodief100]

Most of the research on meat goat breeds is being done at Tennessee State. The latest I read is showing the fastest growing; most worm resistant kids are out of Kiko does by Boer bucks. Granted, you find outliers in any breed but I like to stick with statistical probabilities.

So I have been adding kikos to my herd of percentage boers and am considering a kiko buck for replacement stock.

I agree with Roll, find some good starter stock and make your own. Check out the buck tests for fast gaining bucks. MD has a forage based one that is primarily kikos. Illinois and Kentucky have forage and grain based ones.

The Onion Creek goats may be great in Tennessee but you have a different climate in PA.

 

[cmjust0]

SG (at OCR) is a master at self-promotion....create a mix and tag an impressive name on it and sell them in your area.

If we had a like button, I'd like this 1000 times.

If you read up through some of her "articles," some are decent, but then you run across the occasional gem that's just like...WOW...and everything in every "article" is stated as fact.

For instance...in talking about how goats pick up worms, she mentions that goat droppings are easily mixed with grass and weeds and so they eat them....which is how they get infected with worms.

By eating poop.

She thinks goats get worms by eating goat poop.

:/

This is the same person who goes on to advise rotating pastures every three weeks to break the life cycle of barberpole worms, despite the fact that barberpole larvae -- the thing the goat ACTUALLY eats to become infested (versus the actual poop, as she claims) -- can live for months on pasture, just waiting to be picked up so they can molt a couple more times in the abomasum.

She's ridiculous.

IMHO, anyway..



I think I'm gonna start my own breed of goats.. I'm going to call them "CM Goats".

Then another subset of that breed called "MR2 Goats" with "CM hooves?"

 

[Shiloh Acres]

SG (at OCR) is a master at self-promotion....create a mix and tag an impressive name on it and sell them in your area.

Reminds me of the "designer dogs" craze. Who ever would have thought, years back, that a breeder could get $1000 for what is essentially a mongrel?

Hmph!

Promoting indeed.

 

[Shiloh Acres]

NOT to say that crossing breeds can't be beneficial. And that is how new breeds are created. Just that ... Well, I think the dog thing got silly.

edited for spelling ... Dog thong is even sillier!

 

[jodief100]

NOT to say that crossing breeds can't be beneficial. And that is how new breeds are created. Just that ... Well, I think the dog thing got silly.

Crossing breeds is very benificial, but it not a NEW breed unless they breed true. That takes a lot of careful development and several generations. Crossing increases the gene pool so it blocks out bad reccessives but it increases varitey so you cannot be sure of what you get.

 

[TigerLilly]

IMHO, anyway..

I think I'm gonna start my own breed of goats.. I'm going to call them "CM Goats".
Then another subset of that breed called "MR2 Goats" with "CM hooves?"

I wanna see F1 pics of those!

 

[MidnightChickenLover]

How are Kiko's beneficial to boer stock? I'm curious because the ones I have seen look like heavy Saanens. My boers are very healthy, but it is harder finding "wider, heavier, longer" ones, and having a few crossed goats seems like a good idea, especially if the crosses are fast growing and thicker. Do you know of any good breeders?
Thanks fr warning me