What the heck did this? [Warning: Graphic photos]!

[Goat Whisperer]

THis thread has taken a spin…
If a human did this, I don’t think it was out of hunger. I don’t know about you, but I’d eat other parts of the lamb before I take the head

If you really don’t think a person did this you shouldn’t be that worried. Keep your sheep closer until you can bring in a guardian of some sort. Sell some sheep if you need to cover expenses.

There are livestock guardian dogs, llamas, and donkeys. I only have experience with LG dogs.

You should look into it.

 

[greybeard]

But to shoot someone [two legged varmint] taking one of my sheep? So sorry, but that does not reflect who I am.

And therein lies the answer to why you got the replies that you did.
We tend to look at the world and those in it thru our own eyes and not thru theirs. Wabi Sabi.

 

[greybeard]

THis thread has taken a spin…
If a human did this, I don’t think it was out of hunger. I don’t know about you, but I’d eat other parts of the lamb before I take the head

If you really don’t think a person did this you shouldn’t be that worried. Keep your sheep closer until you can bring in a guardian of some sort. Sell some sheep if you need to cover expenses.

There are livestock guardian dogs, llamas, and donkeys. I only have experience with LG dogs.

You should look into it.

There's no shortage of sheep/lamb head recipes on the internet. Seems to be more of a specific cultural thing than everyday fare tho so I doubt hunger as we in the West usually view it would be involved.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

There's no shortage of sheep/lamb head recipes on the internet. Seems to be more of a specific cultural thing than everyday fare tho so I doubt hunger as we in the West usually view it would be involved.

I am very much aware.

I think you missed the point.

 

[soarwitheagles]

Ok everyone, so sorry for nudging the direction and focus of the original topic away from protecting our sheep to the ethics of shooting people. I have had a bad habit in the past of drifting from the original focus of the post to other things. I apologize. My bad!

Back to protecting our sheep...

I installed a game trail camera last night and focused it upon an area where I scattered some chicken meat and bones...

If the chicken meat and bones are gone, then I will realize it is a careless predator and I will look carefully at the micro card to see what we have here...

Thanks again everyone for your help and I apologize again for drifting from the original topic...

 

[Bruce]

We are all interested to see what your game camera captures. It is indeed a mysterious case. I can't imagine why a 4 legged varmint strong enough to rip the head off the lamb wouldn't prefer to take the part you found rather than the head. Better and easier eating. Hate to think of a 2 legged one doing it though.

 

[soarwitheagles]

We are all interested to see what your game camera captures. It is indeed a mysterious case. I can't imagine why a 4 legged varmint strong enough to rip the head off the lamb wouldn't prefer to take the part you found rather than the head. Better and easier eating. Hate to think of a 2 legged one doing it though.

Thank you Bruce! First trail cam showed nothing from last night and chicken meat and bones undisturbed. I will install a few more trail cams this week. Hope to solve the mystery!

 

[Southern by choice]

@soarwitheagles having game cams all over 30+ acres and all our neighbors having numerous game cams too... the animals we see vary day to day and some are more permanent to the region than others. Just keep that in mind. We have several coyote pairs that are easily identifiable, this is their territory. We see them often, yet others come through. Keeping cams up throughout and viewing the feed for about a month will give you a better idea of what you have on their. Just because you see a fox doesn't mean it was a fox.


I know awhile back you lost a bunch of sheep and didn't know the cause. Did you ever figure that out?

 

[Pastor Dave]

You are a Pastor and you write so lightly and flippantly about taking a human life with your 44 mag over a simple lamb or two? Wow! Please do not invite us to your "church"!

I have been busy with some church activities, believe it or not for the last couple days since posting last, and reading through these posts have kinda amazed me a little. I appreciate those on here that know me at least well enough to want to come to my defense. We haven't met in person, but we have shared parts of our lives, and get to know one anothers' character.

I was a tad bit offended when I first read this reaction, but it was based off a "first opinion", so to say, and this is your post. You're entitled to have your opinion and post it.

Now, I make a rebuttal, not based off being offended, because I am not now. Sometimes I am honest enough with what I feel, I am blunt with what I "say". I can say I am not flippant about life and death. I am going to protect what is mine, though. Having firearms for security or protection does not have to mean taking a life. I have never taken one while a LEO, and have saved plenty in the years between then and now as a pastor while serving as an EMT and firefighter.

I was the kid that would give my lunch to some kid that didn't have one, or made friends with the kid just rejected by another. We didn't have buddy benches back then.

The value of losing 2 lambs cannot be replaced if a person should lose their life over the matter, but the value of losing two lambs was enough for you to post your issue, and ask for responses and ideas. Would I show mercy on someone carrying off a lamb out of hunger? I sure would before showing it to someone that severed a lamb's head and left the meat in tact.

You made it sound like all you had to protect your livestick was air rifles due to living in California. I believe in the 2nd Amendment and was stating I would want to be able to keep my firearms for this matter or any threat foreign or domestic. My last right and reason for having my firearms is resisting national tyranny.

It is a hard line to walk being a pastor and believing in conservative rights others look at as flippant or opposite to Christian principle.

My church welcomes any and many wanting to learn righteousness and having a personal relationship with the Lord. I/we teach biblical principle of love, grace, and mercy. However, we also lock our doors once attendees arrive and have concealed armed greeters to hopefully keep from happening what has occurred in TN and TX churches. Our local schools have locked doors and armed sheriff deputies. Not much different.

I have said it on here before. I am a redneck pastor. I believe in keeping it real. I can and do show love to even those that would do me harm. But, in the event they attempt to do it, I will protect myself and others around me.

You are welcome to my church. You are welcome to my home's table. I don't mean offense by my beliefs or statements, just some clarification.

Thanks, Dave

 

[greybeard]

I am very much aware.

I think you missed the point.

Entirely possible. I usually do miss the point if it isn't a sharpened stick, HT barb or on a mesquite limb, then I catch every one..