Worming my pregnant doe

[Moody]

I have a pregnant doe due March 15-17. I have seen what looks to be tapeworms in the barn. Don't know which goat dropped those so I wanted to get all 6 goats for tapeworms.

Also this particular doe is coughing a lot and seems like her eyelids are fairly pale. Not super pale but not pink either.

I gave her safeguard tonight just to get something done because it seems like she is in need. Safeguard is good for tapeworms right? Can I wait until after she kids and do cydectin, which I have read is more effective than safeguard for lungworms? I would need to dose safeguard 2 more consecutive days right?

She is due so soon I really would like to wait but don't want waiting too long to be an issue.

I don't yet know how to do fecals and the vet here in town who does them does qualitative, not quantities and told me to just worm every 3 months.

 

[Latestarter]

Silly vet, and they wonder why some drugs no longer work I don't know that I'd do all the goats if I don't know which one has the issue... I'd try to find the one with the issue. However, if you're seeing segments on the ground where the goats are, I guess there's a better than average chance they are all infected.

Since you're still about a month before kidding I think worming would be OK. The problem is carrying the kids is putting added stress on the doe and a heavy worm load on top could well put her in jeopardy. Have you or are you planning on a CD&T shot?

I check to those who know better than I; @babsbag @Southern by choice @Goat Whisperer @OneFineAcre @frustratedearthmother

 

[Moody]

Thanks for responding I figure they likely all have picked up tapes even though I only saw it in what looked like one spot.

 

[Southern by choice]

Tapes are really not a big deal but if you are seeing segments then she probably has a lot.

Safeguard must be used 3-5 days consecutively. One dose does NOTHING! Most vets do not recommend the dosage on the back of the bottle... it is usually to low.
The Consortium doubles the dose... my vets say 9-10 ml /100 lbs
You would be best advised by your vet as to what dosage he/she recommends. Anything outside of Safeguard is off label and needs a vet recommendation.

Ivermectin and Safeguard both treat lungworm.

Heavy parasite loads can cause coughing... but not tapes.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

For Safeguard my vet recommended 3x the dosage for 3-5 days. It's a PI the Behind - but I always did it for 5 days...

 

[Moody]

The coughing is bad and her eyelids are looking bad too.

Should I forget the tapes for now (since safeguard isn't as effective anymore anyway) and go with ivermectin to help with her coughing and seemingly heavy load?

 

[Southern by choice]

Fenben does still work... people simply do not use it right and then their goats build resistance.

If heavy load then ivermectin can cause parasites to detatch too quickly and internal bleeding... this is not common unless load is really high.

I'd ask your vet.

If it were me and the load was high I would do fenben for 3 days in a row and then on day 5 ivermectin.

Again, ask you vet. None of us can see the eyelids, we don't know the count or body condition. Tapes do effect nutrients but they are the least of your concerns.

 

[DebbieG]

Just bred two does yesterday. Of course AFTER the fact one doe pooped pellets with multiple yellow pieces of something. Took one in the house and looked under microscope. Doesn't really look like anything, but is what I am seeing tapeworm? Her eyelids look fine, but if tapeworm, too late for Valbazen. Safeguard ok?

 

[Latestarter]

Could it have been something she ate rather than tape worm? I've never seen actual tape sections, but from the pictures I've seen I don't recall them being yellow... Ummm @Southern by choice @babsbag @OneFineAcre @frustratedearthmother And so many others

(I'm loosing my mind, there are so many others and I can't remember all their names I need to make up a "consulting" chart)

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Any tape segments I've seen are more of an off-white color. But, people's descriptions can vary...I guess some folks might call off-white a light yellow???

Only real yellow I see is usually a bit of corn...