Worms! Help!

[Southern by choice]

You are welcome. I strongly encourage you to learn how to do your own fecals. I have 3 articles under "articles". One explains FAMACHA, and fecal analysis. The other two demonstrates the Mc Masters Method. It had to be 2 posts because I can only do 10 pics per post.

Many are intimidated by the process but when we teach it here on the farm everyone is so surprised at just how easy it is. Many pick up being able to recognize parasite eggs right away. Some can pick up cocci too!

Long term it saves money and also saves goats lives!
At anytime you think something is off you can run the fecal and in 10 minutes you at least know if it is parasite related!

 

[NH homesteader]

I'll have to check that out, trying to learn where everything is on here still! I told my husband I want a microscope for our anniversary next month. What a romantic haha. I am a do-it-yourselfer and also cringe at paying $25 for a fecal I can do myself. Yikes! I have too many goats for that!

 

[Southern by choice]

I'll have to check that out, trying to learn where everything is on here still! I told my husband I want a microscope for our anniversary next month. What a romantic haha. I am a do-it-yourselfer and also cringe at paying $25 for a fecal I can do myself. Yikes! I have too many goats for that!

At the top on the brown bar you will see
"forums" "articles" "members" recent posts"

Just click on articles- when the articles come up to the left are categories. Click on Goats.

I do recommend that while you are learning you have a vet or a lab do fecal the same day you do so you can see if you are accurate.

We had a goat on lease and she came back, the day of they took a fecal to the lab to see what she had.... lol they were trying to save me from doing it... I ALWAYS run my own anyway... I did see 2 parasitic eggs not reported by lab, but it may be because they were not goat parasites... they were dog ones.
But the point is working with a lab or a vet really lets you see how well you are learning.

 

[NH homesteader]

Cool I will be reading those ASAP. Called the vet this morning, they tell me they won't sell me dewormer or tell me dosages without an office visit (I get that, don't want the liability of prescribing without seeingthe animal) and the livlivestock vet is out until Tuesday. I am not comfortable waiting that long with a 14 week old baby! She did tell me they use cattle dewormer. So unfortunately I won't get the vets opinion on this one

Sorry if there are a million typos. My phone hates this website and autocorrect acts all screwy.

I have another somewhat local livestock vet I will be calling soon to become a regular!

 

[Southern by choice]

Many of the dewormers are for cattle.
It cost BIG money to do the research to get that "for goats" on the label.
The only dewormer labeled FOR GOATS is Safeguard.
It doesn't mean others aren't used. It means that technically those others are considered "off-label" because they are not labeled specifically for goats. Anything off label is to be given "under supervision of a veterinarian".

Ivermetin is a common dewormer given to goats but it is actually
Ivermectin 1% cattle injection. With goats the dosage is different and it is generally given orally.

Once you can establish a relationship with your vet and your vet is comfortable with your capabilities it gets a little easier. I don't know any vet that would prescribe even a dewormer if they have no client relationship.

We use up to 4 different vets, 2 are my "main vets"... 3rd one is great but has a huge horse clientelle and not always available for lil goat stuff LOL the 4 the vet is a specialist and very rare we need him but is nice to have access to.

NC has some great goat vets!

 

[NH homesteader]

No I wouldn't expect him to give anything, I was frustrated because they never called me back and I had to call 4 times to get an answer and now the doc is out of town for 4 days. Very poor service IMO, when I was promised a call within the hour.

Will be going to a different vet. Hard to find good goat vets up here, it's mostly horse experts and the occasional cow person!

 

[NH homesteader]

Does anyone know about pigs getting worms from goats? Can they pigaerate the goat pen Joel Salatin style? ☺

 

[Southern by choice]

I would be way more concerned about the goats getting infected by pigs.
Pigs should not be ranging on the same land with goats.

ESPECIALLY dairy goats!

 

[NH homesteader]

No! They are so not in together! I meant move the pigs to where the goats used to be when I move the goats. I won't put the goats back in there to avoid them getting these worms again so I was wondering if I could put my pigs there. I would never put my goats in with the pigs! Ew, haha! And pigs bite. Hard.

My goats get the premium land, and I won't put them on land I've had the ppigs on.

 

[Heavenshalfacre]

Thanks! I read on fias co farms site that there is a resistance to safeguard. Is that regional?

Safeguard doesnt work at all in my herd, but i am in Idaho. I have started my herd on Mollys Herbals. I will have fecals done in a few weeks to see what they have on board.