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I'm one of those "SQ for Pen G" people :P. For some reason I have no problem giving Pen G IM to a horse, but a baby goat (which is all I use Pen G on)...dunno...just not enough muscle/too much squirming for me to do a blood check, push the med, and feel good about not having just mainlined the...

Duff, this is a very interesting thread, thank you for keeping it updated. I sure hope they're both over the hump!

If the vet is knowledgeable specifically about goats, it should be fine. They put them under very lightly with gas usually and use locals rather than the anesthesia to get the job done. Hopefully, since he's putting your guy under, he's actually going to open the skin and remove the scurs...

You can achieve the same effect, without using a replacer, with Deccox-M which is a product intended to be added to milk since babies don't eat enough medicated feed to get the recommended levels of Deccox. GREAT PRODUCT.

We have 1 doe who tends to kid on day 153...other than that we average day 143 on most does. She's so flashy! Looking forward to baby pics =)

Pretty udder on her! Good luck.

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I'm not testing his potential when I'm doing test crops. By the time I decide to keep a junior buck and breed him, he's already shown me if he's the style and type I want, I already know the mammary genetics he carries, and he's been in the show ring and done well. A test crop is more of a...

:rolleyes: Well meaning neighbors are oft the bain of livestock owners. I surely hope your goats make it. :fl

Pink eye isn't always the START of the disease process. It looks to me like this doe has injured her eye - perhaps a foreign object in the lid that also rubbed the globe and brought on pink eye. I would check inside the lids as best you can for the irritant or cut... Still - it has TURNED...

Okay - here is a doe who has probably the same teat structure the Tog doe on this thread HAD before she blew: If I were to let this doe's udder become engorged, her teats would 'blow out' and balloon. It's permanent damage...and eventually, as the doe ages, even the sphincter at the junction...

Yep...and some goats LOVE LOVE LOVE red gatoraide, so you can add some to the water (powdered of course) and flavor the water further...to hide the AC and increase water intake while you're at it. (it's a good show tip too if you have goats that don't drink well at shows, start at home, and...

Yep, blown (=poor udder management, a red flag) and bottled. I have a Nubian doe, aged, that I purchased with one blown teat...she is a wonderful milker still but every freshening that blown teat got worse, harder to milk, harder to keep pliable (caused cracking, which can invite infection) and...

It takes 14 days for effective levels of antibodies from a toxiod (vaccines) to be circulating and available in the colostrum...so if you have at least 14 days before kidding, you're good. If you vaccinate, and they kid before that 14 days, you should assume the kids don't have sufficient immunity.

Yep, go with your gut...you're the one looking at the goat most of the time. Again, SO sorry for your loss and hopefully the doe makes a full recovery and catches multiples next time.

:hugs So sorry... Just for future reference for others reading here - a SLOW pre-labor that doesn't result in good pushing usually indicates a dystocia. You shouldn't see a doe having standing contractions or even light contractions and not have a birth within an hour or so. Here, if we have...

Blood test would be next...but if the EXUDE was clear of CL...likely she doesn't have it, because the exude would be chock full of it...

We don't use hot wires...but sometimes, as I'm fixing fences that have been popped off the T posts by rubbing goats...I wish we did have a wire right at mid-barrel to stop the rubbing. And then :P I remember how good I am at running into the hot wire over at the horse fence...:smack

:ep Wha? LOL!! I just LOL too!

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