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Brenda, I agree with a lot of your post. I do also think that regulated predator hunting/management (key word being "regulated") has a role to play in modern conservation. I understand how LGD's, fencing, range riders, fladry, and other non-lethal measures play a role. But I also think that...

Spent a little time on some sheep farms. I don't know anything about the OP's farm or her dogs. That's why I asked my original question. The farms in my area, some of which run good-sized flocks, run 1, maybe 2, dogs and that seems to work with few if any issues. The coyotes in this area...

All right. Then the OP should put 2 LGD's with the goats and 2 with the chickens. My initial point was that with 4 LGD's (at least that was listed in the OP's signature), the OP has some options and flexibility in dealing with the coyotes. And yeah, coyotes can gang up on dogs, but that's...

All right. I guess I don't understand the situation you're dealing with. It sounded like you, or whoever was having this problem, was dealing with 1, maybe 2, coyotes going after chickens. If that's the case, 3 LGD's with the goats, and 1 with the Chickens (assuming there are 4 LGD's total)...

Then it would seem appropriate to leave at least 1 of those LGD's with the chickens. And yes, I'm quite familiar with how gutsy coyotes can be...I've dealt with them quite a bit where I live.

I've been a long-time viewer of this site but just recently signed up. I currently have no herd of my own, but would like to learn more about sheep management and herding for a potential future project. I'm also trying to get a better understanding of long term, grass-based, rotational...

That's a subjective statement you're making there. Hunting deer with dogs was and still is a tradition in some parts of North America and Europe and other areas for the same reason that hog hunting with dogs is so prevalent throughout the world: it's very difficult to find them in some areas...

You have 4 LGD's but a coyote is still giving you problems?

It's not pathetic, just a different way to hunt. There are a lot of areas in the south where the terrain is impassible, or if its navigable, you'd make so much noise pushing through it the deer would be long gone by the time you got to your spot. Hunting deer with dogs isn't that different...