misfitmorgan
Herd Master
We flip them over into a cush and give the injection on the bare skin of the inner upper thigh on the front end....if that makes any sense at all. Let me try to find a picture.
“CDT/CD&T” Vacs/ BoSe/VIT E SEL GEL/ B12 Discussion
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We flip them over into a cush and give the injection on the bare skin of the inner upper thigh on the front end....if that makes any sense at all. Let me try to find a picture.
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Sally Sunshine
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ok I am so confused at the vits suggested before and after for dams and kids
I will start a thread for my kidding info and post link here if I can figure out how to.
I would appreciate any help in figuring some of the stuff out I collected in the notes.
I tried to get the info available too on the product but still I dont want to over dose on vits and mins or anything else. I swear they throw vits in everything so there has to be one good one that has it all!
I will start a thread for my kidding info and post link here if I can figure out how to.
I would appreciate any help in figuring some of the stuff out I collected in the notes.
I tried to get the info available too on the product but still I dont want to over dose on vits and mins or anything else. I swear they throw vits in everything so there has to be one good one that has it all!
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Sally Sunshine
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bare with me this is all new lol a Kush? is that what the seat is called to trim sheep? and will goats stay in a seat?
sorry knowing my spoiled cry baby goats this could be quite interesting doing that!- Thread starter
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Sally Sunshine
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BoSe/ e-sel dosage to mom goats 4 weeks b4 kidding, and kids if chilled at birth.
Selenium E Gel weak kids or kids with white muscle disease and more. The purpose of having selenium gel in the kidding kit is to administer an appropriate dosage to kids who display those symptoms. Newborn 2ml ~ Adult 4ml To be used once every 30 days.
Selenium E Gel weak kids or kids with white muscle disease and more. The purpose of having selenium gel in the kidding kit is to administer an appropriate dosage to kids who display those symptoms. Newborn 2ml ~ Adult 4ml To be used once every 30 days.
misfitmorgan
Herd Master
.bare with me this is all new lol a Kush? is that what the seat is called to trim sheep? and will goats stay in a seat?
Cush is what you see them doing with sheep to shear them....goats kind of do it though fight way more lol.
The seats you mean i believe are "deck chairs"
misfitmorgan
Herd Master
BoSe/ e-sel dosage to mom goats 4 weeks b4 kidding, and kids if chilled at birth.
Selenium E Gel weak kids or kids with white muscle disease and more. The purpose of having selenium gel in the kidding kit is to administer an appropriate dosage to kids who display those symptoms. Newborn 2ml ~ Adult 4ml To be used once every 30 days.
If you have a selenium problem verified by a vet they generally give and recommend BoSe 4 weeks before birthing, that is generally verified thru tests. You can easily kill a goat or kid with BoSe if they dont need the selenium.
To that end the over the counter selenium/vit E gel has less selenium and is indicated for use on kids already showing signs of selenium deficiency aka weak or white muscle disease. You can optionally treat the doe at this point as well because if the kid is deficient she is likely as well.
Dose that make anymore sense?
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Sally Sunshine
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Those are hilarious!
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Sally Sunshine
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yep makes sense! thank you!
OneFineAcre
Herd Master
I give the Goat Vac that we can get from Tractor Supply.
We give to the does a month before kidding. We usually give to our kids when they are 6-8 weeks old. We aren't exact about everything.
We give the yearlings and the bucks their boosters in the spring about the same time we are giving the others.
We give ours sub q behind the shoulder. After you give the injection you need to rub the skin at the site. That avoids lumps, but sometimes we may get one the size of a pea.
We give BoSe injections. We give ours about a month before the kid I believe. I've never heard anything about that being a problem.
I think some people give a month before breeding.
We give B-12 when needed.
We also keep Thaimine, we've given that to kids who seemed weak.
We give to the does a month before kidding. We usually give to our kids when they are 6-8 weeks old. We aren't exact about everything.
We give the yearlings and the bucks their boosters in the spring about the same time we are giving the others.
We give ours sub q behind the shoulder. After you give the injection you need to rub the skin at the site. That avoids lumps, but sometimes we may get one the size of a pea.
We give BoSe injections. We give ours about a month before the kid I believe. I've never heard anything about that being a problem.
I think some people give a month before breeding.
We give B-12 when needed.
We also keep Thaimine, we've given that to kids who seemed weak.
misfitmorgan
Herd Master
Be careful with the gel too though. A friend of ours had a goat kid showing signs of white muscle disease and i was out of gel so i ordered some and had it delivered to their house. I told them i didnt remeber the exact dosage but it was a tiny amount like the size of a pea. The day after the gel came they called and said the kid was acting worse and the doe who they also dosed suddenly couldnt walk or stand 
I went over there trying to figure out what was wrong, i asked about the gel. Their young son went and got the tube and my heart sank when i saw it. They used over half of the tube on a 100lb doe and a 5-6lb kid. I told them to call the vet right away because they had given the goats selenium poisoning....i was honestly really really angry. There is no way you can mistake a pea size amount for over half of the tube....its a big friggin tube. They refused to call the vet and told me maybe they will get better on their own, they of course did not. The doe and the kid both died.
I found out later the one who had dosed them was the son....he was 7yrs old and didnt understand how to read the measurements or what the dose ring was for. He just knew it was suppose to help the kid and figured it would help the doe feel better too, and if a little helped a lot must help more. If his dad would have been home when the gel arrived i don't think it ever would have happened but his mom was home and they have 5 kids and 7 dogs so its hectic there.
Anyhow just be careful with the gel.
I went over there trying to figure out what was wrong, i asked about the gel. Their young son went and got the tube and my heart sank when i saw it. They used over half of the tube on a 100lb doe and a 5-6lb kid. I told them to call the vet right away because they had given the goats selenium poisoning....i was honestly really really angry. There is no way you can mistake a pea size amount for over half of the tube....its a big friggin tube. They refused to call the vet and told me maybe they will get better on their own, they of course did not. The doe and the kid both died.
I found out later the one who had dosed them was the son....he was 7yrs old and didnt understand how to read the measurements or what the dose ring was for. He just knew it was suppose to help the kid and figured it would help the doe feel better too, and if a little helped a lot must help more. If his dad would have been home when the gel arrived i don't think it ever would have happened but his mom was home and they have 5 kids and 7 dogs so its hectic there.
Anyhow just be careful with the gel.
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