9 week old buckling with diarrhea - PICS!

[woodsie]

If you have a feed store near you you should be able to at least find Corid and maybe the DiMethox. I can find both in my area with no prescription needed. At the risk of sounding arrogant and mean, why are you waiting on the cocci treatment? I am going to say it again, it won't hurt him and it just may save his life.

There are other reasons for scours that you might not be able to treat, but this you can. I could say this more strongly,but I won't, DON'T WAIT FOR THE VET.

I am in BC Canada and feed stores are not allowed to sell any sort of medications, that also includes online for most things too. It is sooooo crazy frustrating....the feed stores have NOTHING but feed and certain wormers. I was at the feed store yesterday and they said too rich feed or go to vet, they have nothing!

 

[woodsie]

I gave some B12, he's perked up and eating the hay well...mom is running to the store for electrolites and gelatin.

I am in tears because it is so frustrating dealing with a system that does not simple life saving medications easily available. If I could not even get a copper supplement without having a vet appt....I could not even special order in coppasure through the feed stores. A lot of the time we cannot ship US meds to canada either. I hate our regulation red tape.

 

[babsbag]

If you have a feed store near you you should be able to at least find Corid and maybe the DiMethox. I can find both in my area with no prescription needed. At the risk of sounding arrogant and mean, why are you waiting on the cocci treatment? I am going to say it again, it won't hurt him and it just may save his life.

There are other reasons for scours that you might not be able to treat, but this you can. I could say this more strongly,but I won't, DON'T WAIT FOR THE VET.

I am in BC Canada and feed stores are not allowed to sell any sort of medications, that also includes online for most things too. It is sooooo crazy frustrating....the feed stores have NOTHING but feed and certain wormers. I was at the feed store yesterday and they said too rich feed or go to vet, they have nothing!

Ahhh, now the light comes on. Sorry if I sounded frustrated with you. You mean there is a place more regulated than USA? Amazing. Guess I should be glad for what I have.

Someone gave this to me last year and it worked really well to stop scours. Where it says "I" that is my friend, not me. I have used it but never made it myself.

1 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp clove
2 tsp ginger
2 tsp slippery elm (health food stores or Hoeggers Goat Supply)
1 tsp garlic ( I use liquid)
2 cups of water

Bring to slow simmer on low heat while stirring.
I then place in jar and cover and allow to cool for about 20 minutes.
I have been using it for
the past few years with awesome results.
Give 6-12 cc's orally several times a day.
I have also mixed it with scour halt with very good results

Since I already had some of this mixed up I then added:
cayenne and thyme. I used a teaspoon of each because my babies are in the 50-70 pound range, well, most of them, Figured it wouldn't hurt the little babies.

Hope you can get to a vet soon.

 

[woodsie]

If you have a feed store near you you should be able to at least find Corid and maybe the DiMethox. I can find both in my area with no prescription needed. At the risk of sounding arrogant and mean, why are you waiting on the cocci treatment? I am going to say it again, it won't hurt him and it just may save his life.

There are other reasons for scours that you might not be able to treat, but this you can. I could say this more strongly,but I won't, DON'T WAIT FOR THE VET.

I am in BC Canada and feed stores are not allowed to sell any sort of medications, that also includes online for most things too. It is sooooo crazy frustrating....the feed stores have NOTHING but feed and certain wormers. I was at the feed store yesterday and they said too rich feed or go to vet, they have nothing!

Ahhh, now the light comes on. Sorry if I sounded frustrated with you. You mean there is a place more regulated than USA? Amazing. Guess I should be glad for what I have.

Someone gave this to me last year and it worked really well to stop scours. Where it says "I" that is my friend, not me. I have used it but never made it myself.

1 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp clove
2 tsp ginger
2 tsp slippery elm (health food stores or Hoeggers Goat Supply)
1 tsp garlic ( I use liquid)
2 cups of water

Bring to slow simmer on low heat while stirring.
I then place in jar and cover and allow to cool for about 20 minutes.
I have been using it for
the past few years with awesome results.
Give 6-12 cc's orally several times a day.
I have also mixed it with scour halt with very good results

Since I already had some of this mixed up I then added:
cayenne and thyme. I used a teaspoon of each because my babies are in the 50-70 pound range, well, most of them, Figured it wouldn't hurt the little babies.

Hope you can get to a vet soon.

Thanks..I just cooked up a batch and am waiting for it to cool. Going to call vet emerg line and see how that goes.

 

[woodsie]

Called the on call vet and she said proabably did not even need to bring in a fecal cause it wouldn't tell them accurately? Needs to see him and possibly hospitalize...I asked about Corid and she said well maybe but not too sure, might be too young. I'm not sure they see goats too often, most people are not impressed with their ability to diagnosis goats. I have an appt tomorrow at 9:30 so hopefully I can get some meds.

He did not like the recipe and was grinding his teeth after I gave him it but I ran and grabbed a bottle of water and helped to wash it down and he stopped grinding his teeth then. Still waiting for mom to get home with electrolites and gelatin.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

Dimethox is the best medicine for treating cocci. Talk the vet into giving you that, even if they are being stubborn.

 

[elevan]

Your vet doesn't sound very well versed in goats and sounds like he wants to charge you a boatload of money. I agree...try your best to just get them to give you the meds. Cocci does indeed show up in a fecal float though it takes 10 minutes longer than a regular float does.

eta: And it only takes 21 days to have a cocci bloom...that's 3 weeks...your goat is 3x that age, so definitely not too young for it.

 

[20kidsonhill]

I had someone tell me the juice from blackberries works great for scours, I don't know anything more about it than you are suppose to get fresh or frozen black berries and squeeze them.

 

[woodsie]

Thanks everyone, so nice to be informed - I will not be leaving the vet tomorrow without the Dimethox! I gave him 10cc of the special brew twice now and two bottles of the electrolites with gelatin which he loved. Seems perky and in decent shape at the moment so hopefully we will make it through the night. Thanks again...I'll keep you posted with how he does!

 

[woodsie]

It is the 5:30am here but I had to tell someone! I got up at 5am to give my sick buckling a bottle of electrolites and had the BEST surprise...nanny berries!!!! Burdock jumped up to get his bottle, drank it heartily then as I was checking his back end (the past couple nights he's had poop all down the back of his legs) he seemed dry - he turns around gives me a full view of his butt and out drop 4 or 5 perfectly formed and dry nanny berries!!! I couldn't be HAPPIER!!!

I am assuming by some miracle that we are over the worst and will check in a couple hours to see if we are still all good before I cancel my vet appt. I don't want to start antibiotics if he's better and risk catching something else but if he still needs the meds I'll go get them. Am I wrong in assuming that if the scours has stopped and we have perfect poops we are in good shape and don't need the meds?

Thanks, BEST EASTER PRESENT EVER!