AI and Nigerian Dwarfs?

[kstaven]

The thing is it may take 7 or 8 straws to get your doe to settle. I wish it were only one. In the long run it is probably cheaper to do AI, but when you consider all the equipment it takes and the skills it might not be practical unless you are looking for a specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? Wow. Doesn't seem like it would be practical at all, unless like you said you were looking specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? I would be throwing the A.I. tech off the property. One straw and over 80% conception is more like it.

 

[OneFineAcre]

The thing is it may take 7 or 8 straws to get your doe to settle. I wish it were only one. In the long run it is probably cheaper to do AI, but when you consider all the equipment it takes and the skills it might not be practical unless you are looking for a specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? Wow. Doesn't seem like it would be practical at all, unless like you said you were looking specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? I would be throwing the A.I. tech off the property. One straw and over 80% conception is more like it.

Yeah, I'm glad to hear that. Like I said, if it took 7 or 8 straws...... don't see the point.

 

[Renegade]

The thing is it may take 7 or 8 straws to get your doe to settle. I wish it were only one. In the long run it is probably cheaper to do AI, but when you consider all the equipment it takes and the skills it might not be practical unless you are looking for a specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? Wow. Doesn't seem like it would be practical at all, unless like you said you were looking specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? I would be throwing the A.I. tech off the property. One straw and over 80% conception is more like it.

80% or higher is normal in cows but not in goats. Totally different technique and conception rates are a little lower.

Donna

 

[babsbag]

7 or 8 straws? Wow. Doesn't seem like it would be practical at all, unless like you said you were looking specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? I would be throwing the A.I. tech off the property. One straw and over 80% conception is more like it.

80% or higher is normal in cows but not in goats. Totally different technique and conception rates are a little lower.

Donna

All I know is what I have been told by the lady that teaches the class and my vet and the 4 friends that do it. I have no actual experience in it myself but I was looking into it for a Togg doe last year and everyone I talked to with experience said to figure on 7-8 straws so . I decided to just breed her to an Alpine buck that I own and forget about AI. Was going to cost too much IMO. If it is only going to take one straw then I maybe I should have tried it. 7-8 does seem like quite a few.

 

[Renegade]

All I know is what I have been told by the lady that teaches the class and my vet and the 4 friends that do it.

If they all told you that then they all should consider taking an A.I. class for goats. Either they have poor technique or they're not handling the straws properly.
Goats are much more difficult then cows because the technique is completely different.

Donna

 

[kstaven]

7 or 8 straws? Wow. Doesn't seem like it would be practical at all, unless like you said you were looking specific genetics.

7 or 8 straws? I would be throwing the A.I. tech off the property. One straw and over 80% conception is more like it.

80% or higher is normal in cows but not in goats. Totally different technique and conception rates are a little lower.

Donna

We must have some exceptional A.I. techs up here then.

 

[OneFineAcre]

7 or 8 straws? I would be throwing the A.I. tech off the property. One straw and over 80% conception is more like it.

80% or higher is normal in cows but not in goats. Totally different technique and conception rates are a little lower.

Donna

We must have some exceptional A.I. techs up here then.

So, when you do AI, you have to get someone, an AI Tech to do it for you? My wife used to AI all of her daddy's beef cows, she worked on a university dairy and did those and she worked at the AI unit of a commercial hog farm and a university swine unit and did those as well. But, you guys do AI and have to get someone to do it for you? How much do you have to pay them. Can you not do goats yourself because it's more difficult or complicated? I'm confused.

 

[Renegade]

80% or higher is normal in cows but not in goats. Totally different technique and conception rates are a little lower.

Donna

We must have some exceptional A.I. techs up here then.

So, when you do AI, you have to get someone, an AI Tech to do it for you? My wife used to AI all of her daddy's beef cows, she worked on a university dairy and did those and she worked at the AI unit of a commercial hog farm and a university swine unit and did those as well. But, you guys do AI and have to get someone to do it for you? How much do you have to pay them. Can you not do goats yourself because it's more difficult or complicated? I'm confused.

I do my own AI. Went to 2 different classes years ago. I felt learning from different people would help me decide what technique worked best for me.
The technique for goats is totally different then cattle and hogs. I've found people with no experience learned how to do goats much faster then people that learned AI on cattle. With cattle everything is by feel. You reach in the rectum hold the cervix and with the other hand insert the gun and straw. With goats everything is visual. You have to be able to work in a 1" speculum.

Donna