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I am so sorry :hugs:hugs:hugs

You did everything you could for her. :hugs

I wouldn't cull the doe just yet. This could have been a late gestation abortion.... do you know if she was chased by anything? Is she on the bottom of the pecking order? Underweight? Many things can contribute to this, it could have just been a fluke.

Are you drying the momma doe off?
 

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She wasn't chased by anything, is a good weight, and is midlevel in pecking order. I think she had too much baby for her body. The three were all pretty large framed, and very skinny. She has been really good on the milking stand. We aren't going to dry her off until the next doe kids, which should be any minute, and we see if we need the extra milk. I am extremely nervous about the next go round.
 

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I completely understand your worries. Try to take a breath and all will turn out ok. I have heard that goats can get toxoplasmosis that can cause them to abort from cats, Not sure if this is true or if you have any cats around the goats even. It really does sound like her body knew it couldn't handle them full term. :( :hugs
 

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We do have 4 kittens that are about 5 months old, they are great mousers, but I really haven't seen them in the goat's hay, although it is certainly a possibility. I know they are not in the grain. If toxoplasmosis is the cause, I don't really know what to do about it. (Feeling despair)
 

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Just for your reading pleasure: http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/toxoplasmosis.html or here: http://www.desu.edu/sites/default/files/Toxoplasmosis fact sheet_DJO.pdf

I kinda doubt that is/was the issue as typically when toxoplasmosis is the issue, you end up with aborted fetuses in the first half of gestation. if the doe was infected later in the gestation, abortion seems to be rare. If the doe was infected, all indications are that it should NOT affect later/future pregnancies. I tend to agree with those above and would give her another chance.
 

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I am so sorry of the outcome of this kidding. :( Farm life can be hard sometimes...

You did all you could for little Honey Bees. :hugs
 

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I'm so sorry :( It's a very hard way to learn things, but this experience will help you next time you have to deal with something similar. She was being loved and cared for, and that matters.
 

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Grammy goat is driving me nuts! According to the date she was marked, she should have had babies last Monday. No such thing has happened. She has a bit of mucus (I thought) but what I saw was pretty miniscule. She is bagging up, and I am pretty sure I have felt movement. So I am completely clueless as to a due date.
On a better note, Oreo is a dream to milk. We are still very sad over her losses, but we have never had such a nice doe on the milking stand.
 

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So glad there's an upside to the loss of the kids. Hope Oreo provides great milk for months to come. Maybe Grammy is planning one of those surprise deliveries for you. You know, stealth labor and delivery. Hope she goes without a hitch!
 
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