Am I being too sensitive?

[TAH]

I agree with what the others have said.

 

[Latestarter]

Sorry Dage... you're defending your position... When you ask for opinions, "I need some feedback!" and receive them, the proper response is "thank you" and then move on. If you don't want to hear that your position might have been skewed, then don't ask.

You asked for feedback (opinions), I provided mine. On YOUR farm it's only milk and eggs for food, "never the animals"... you're not the majority of farms... There's no way the person you're railing against could have possibly known this, or any of your other personal life's beliefs. Again. sorry it's not what you wanted to hear.

 

[Dage]

Sorry Dage... you're defending your position... When you ask for opinions, "I need some feedback!" and receive them, the proper response is "thank you" and then move on. If you don't want to hear that your position might have been skewed, then don't ask.

You asked for feedback (opinions), I provided mine. On YOUR farm it's only milk and eggs for food, "never the animals"... you're not the majority of farms... There's no way the person you're railing against could have possibly known this, or any of your other personal life's beliefs. Again. sorry it's not what you wanted to hear.

You´re right! I just love em all...wethered or not.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Their milk and their eggs are for food. However there flesh is not. Not on my farm! I am not offended by the prospect of him EATING and butchering them but really! I don´t want to hear about it! Nor the way in which he plans to do it! TMI!

I understand knowing the process can be hard for some, especially if you have never seen or done anything like this. Whenever we sell a goat for meat, we ALWAYS ask what methods they use and how they do it. I want to make sure they aren't buying one of our animals to practice on and that the deed is as quick as possible. I want to make sure the goat isn't being tied to a tree for days on end, I want to know the goats life will end right away- nothing dragging it out. I want a humane death for any animal used for meat.

It can be hard to ask these questions at first, but I like having the peace of mind.

Everyone that we sold meat animals have been very respectful of both us and the animals. They are gentle and don't just shove them in cage and drive away. They really seem to care and treat the animals right.

 

[Pamela]

I've had buyers (many years back) who wanted to butcher the goat there and carry carcass they wanted out. Rest to be left behind. No sale. You can buy to butcher but, just not to butcher here.

I just had this experience too. No sale as well. I don't care if you eat them, but you're not going to slaughter your goat on my place.

 

[Latestarter]

Thanks.

 

[Southern by choice]

@Dage Even those of us that do sell for meat and eat it... it is often still hard. We have pretty strict rules here so that is why we do ask. It can be hard to hear but I am a big believer in doing things humanely.

I use to have a very large breeding farm for poultry. I had so many young cockerels to get rid of and usually we would gather meat for our dogs, we really didn't have time for all that. I posted an ad. Long story short one guy was real evasive... I asked LOTS of questions. The birds didn't go to him. After the "grilling" lol I gave him I figured he wanted the birds to help train his fighting birds. Cock fighting is illegal but big money where we live. We have a large population from Central America here... may be part of their culture but not here.
We have also had calls for chickens during certain "holidays" ... we avoid selling at those times as well because I am ok if people want to eat them I am not ok for them to just use them as sprinkling of blood for their holiday.

Last week we had a goat go for meat. Yes, it was hard. He was born on our farm, cared for and 3 years old. He would have made a great commercial breeder but everyone wants registered bucks only. The guys explained the hows and when and we said ok.

I know it is hard for you. One day maybe you will summon the courage to ask those questions so you KNOW it is being done right.

Sometimes people do have a hard time understanding you can do both... food and love.
Today was very sad for us. One of our oldest Roos (AJ) was dying. He was held all day. Many tears shed here. WE LOVED this bird. In the end we put him out of his misery. A slow death is not ok IMO.
He is buried under our Willow along side some of our other "special" birds and critters.

If we ever lose our compassion then it will be time to stop doing what we are doing.

 

[ldawntaylor]

I have been reading this particular thread with some interest.

Dage, I understand where you are coming from. I was raised vegetarian. So the transition to selling goat kids knowing they were destined for the dinner table was not an easy one. It still is rather difficult.

If you want my suggestion in dealing with this aspect of animal raising... is there someone you trust to take care of the details and conversations involved with selling the wethers?

Or find ways to bring up your being vegetarian. Most people are courteous enough to edit their conversations. A simple statement from you about not being comfortable hearing the details might make a difference.

It takes a level of courage to ask how the goats will be treated once they are sold. But, personally, I would rather know at least in general details what their end will be. But, I acknowledge, it has taken me several years to reach this point.

Wishing you all the best in the choices you make.

 

[Dage]

I have been reading this particular thread with some interest.

Dage, I understand where you are coming from. I was raised vegetarian. So the transition to selling goat kids knowing they were destined for the dinner table was not an easy one. It still is rather difficult.

If you want my suggestion in dealing with this aspect of animal raising... is there someone you trust to take care of the details and conversations involved with selling the wethers?

Or find ways to bring up your being vegetarian. Most people are courteous enough to edit their conversations. A simple statement from you about not being comfortable hearing the details might make a difference.

It takes a level of courage to ask how the goats will be treated once they are sold. But, personally, I would rather know at least in general details what their end will be. But, I acknowledge, it has taken me several years to reach this point.

Wishing you all the best in the choices you make.

Thank you all for your input! And Thank you Idawntaylor for understanding!

 

[Baymule]

@Dage, no one here faults you for your beliefs. We don't care if you eat meat or not. Even though many of us eat meat, we understand and respect you and your beliefs. You are a valued member here, it takes all of us to make this the great forum that it is. Stay active here, post pictures and tell us about your farm, we love hearing about other's farms, we all live vicariously through each other, don't 'cha know!