Am I the only one who ever thinks about this?

dianneS

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I think I understand what you're saying. Sort of the same theory my sister had when she got her dog as a 7 week old puppy. She figured she would imprint that dog, start training immediately and she would never have a single issue with the dog, no growing pains, no misbehaving etc. Well, she is a great dog now, but it wasn't like raising her was smooth sailing. She still chewed, peed on the floor from time to time, barked too much and eventually grew out of it. Starting her training young did nothing to prevent her from going through those phases. She still had to mature and grow up just like any other puppy.

All young animals go through difficult stages, they all mature differently and they all have different temperments that may come from their breeding more than their training or environment.

Just because you imprint and de-sensitize a horse at a very young age doesn't mean its going to be a bomb proof horse at the age of two. Young horses spook at the unknown, young horses have excess energy, they're silly, they act out, hormones kick in, they can be difficult just because they're going through a "phase". You just never know what you're gonna get no matter how early you start them.

As mentioned above, too much imprinting can be a dangerous thing. I know it makes sense in theory to think that if you raised a horse from a tiny baby and made it your best friend that you'd be able to totally trust one another, but they're still young and they must go through all of the normal stages that a youngster goes through to reach maturity.

Frankly, I like my older mature horses best. Give me one of those "been there done that" types any day over training a young one. Those older horses understand humans, what we're like, what we're capable of (good and bad) and what to expect from us. I love that.
 

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Wow, this forum is a breath of fresh air. As a PP said, if you'd posted this on a 'horse only" forum, they'd have been after you like a pack of dogs! It's nice to come in here and read people being civil to one another!

I've been riding for ten years, but I don't consider myself a trainer. By any means. However, if we get another horse, it'll be a foal, and I'll do the work myself - prepared to send her to a trainer if need be!

But, I don't think there's anything unusual in what you're feeling.
 

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ChristyMarie82 said:
Wow, this forum is a breath of fresh air. As a PP said, if you'd posted this on a 'horse only" forum, they'd have been after you like a pack of dogs! It's nice to come in here and read people being civil to one another!

I've been riding for ten years, but I don't consider myself a trainer. By any means. However, if we get another horse, it'll be a foal, and I'll do the work myself - prepared to send her to a trainer if need be!

But, I don't think there's anything unusual in what you're feeling.
That is so true about other horse forums!
 

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True what has been said about posting this on a horses forum.

I used to make a decent living fixing backyard pet raised horses that ended up spoiled rotten and dangerous to their loving owners.

It can be done BUT, you need a good mentor and while i don't personally care for one certain program or another, you need to be in some kind of training. Buck is my fav right now and i have some friends who i respect a lot who are really into clinton anderson and finding a lot of good in his methods.

the problem that most people run into is in trying to make the horse their friend because horse psychology is so different than human psychology in many ways.

when you are (human)'nice' to a horse, they see that are you asking them to care for and protect you, and that includes them bossing you around. if it's a strong minded horse, they will expect to be in charge, if it's a naturally nervous horse it can make them very skittish and fearful. as long as you understand that being a strong leader to a horse is what will make them love and respect you, you'll be fine.

the simplest way to explain it is to "move their feet". Don't ever let them move your feet. ... when a horse gets in your space, they aren't usually being loving, they are asking the question "if they are in charge". you can let them in your space if you want to love on them, but don't ever step back as is natural for people when someone gets in your space. ... simply take a step forward into the horse and move them back at least a step or two and then love on them.
 

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I did this- at 49 years old LOL
I am a lifelong horse owner but have never started one- my husband bought me a cutting bred unbroke 4 year old- big spoiled baby with no manners and hot as fish grease ! Everyone said I would never be able to do anything with her- too hot, too long with no training etc.....well, I took my time- time time time.....started from square one bonding with her, grooming, playing, spending time just being with her, then leading, and tying- then started with the round pen and ground work...get the picture- it took me at least a year !! Because I am no spring chicken and didn't want to rush her or me and end up getting hurt- people at the boarding stable laughed- me with my horse I wouldn't ride- and would never ride- all the while Glory and I were getting closer and closer- then 6 months ago I moved to a 188 acre piece of property and took Glory with me where I continued our little snails pace training. Eventually I started saddling her and longing her with the saddle on in her paddock, she bucked like a lunatic- I stuck with it and just kept doing it. Eventually she got used to the saddle and actually looked forward to me working her- this is when I knew we had turned the corner-finally in October my neighbor invited me to go riding with her and I accepted- got on Glory for the first time and guess what ? She stood there ! We walked out, and went on a 4 hour ride that day, no kick, buck, nothing but heaven on earth !! We have been hitting the trails together ever since- going in water, over obstacles, navigating through cows, dodging the occassional stray dog- and never a problem- you know, we trust EACHOTHER.... that to me is huge- I am so blessed, and so thankful that I did it myself and took my time-
I would never recommend anyone else do this- each person and horse is different- but for me it worked out better than I could have ever imagined :):D
 

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gretchenann said:
I did this- at 49 years old LOL
I am a lifelong horse owner but have never started one- my husband bought me a cutting bred unbroke 4 year old- big spoiled baby with no manners and hot as fish grease ! Everyone said I would never be able to do anything with her- too hot, too long with no training etc.....well, I took my time- time time time.....started from square one bonding with her, grooming, playing, spending time just being with her, then leading, and tying- then started with the round pen and ground work...get the picture- it took me at least a year !! Because I am no spring chicken and didn't want to rush her or me and end up getting hurt- people at the boarding stable laughed- me with my horse I wouldn't ride- and would never ride- all the while Glory and I were getting closer and closer- then 6 months ago I moved to a 188 acre piece of property and took Glory with me where I continued our little snails pace training. Eventually I started saddling her and longing her with the saddle on in her paddock, she bucked like a lunatic- I stuck with it and just kept doing it. Eventually she got used to the saddle and actually looked forward to me working her- this is when I knew we had turned the corner-finally in October my neighbor invited me to go riding with her and I accepted- got on Glory for the first time and guess what ? She stood there ! We walked out, and went on a 4 hour ride that day, no kick, buck, nothing but heaven on earth !! We have been hitting the trails together ever since- going in water, over obstacles, navigating through cows, dodging the occassional stray dog- and never a problem- you know, we trust EACHOTHER.... that to me is huge- I am so blessed, and so thankful that I did it myself and took my time-
I would never recommend anyone else do this- each person and horse is different- but for me it worked out better than I could have ever imagined :):D
awesome story and what a fantastic way to do it right.

i do that with mine. .. .just get on and go for a ride when they are ready ... BUT - since they are born here, we have years of bonding and understanding each other, they know what's expected physically, mentally and emotionally. ... would love to see a pic of you and your girl.
 
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