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GypsyG

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You can go in and just flag the posts. Maybe they will get the hint.
There is some animal rights nut who goes through flagging all the animal postings on my local farm and garden section of Craigslist... Granted some need it - "five day old micro pig bottle babies", "4-1/2 week old kittens", "Nigerian Dwarf Bottle Babies", "Beautiful Solid White Australian Shepherd Puppies" - just to mention some of the ones I have seen in the last day or so.... But it really pi$$es me off when the animal rights nuts go through and start flagging legit livestock ads.

I got so agrevated I put a note at the top of my post, and surprisingly it hasn't been flagged... I have been able to renew it twice without having to type the whole thing again!

https://springfield.craigslist.org/grd/d/ozark-meat-rabbits/6783697918.html
 

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There is some animal rights nut who goes through flagging all the animal postings on my local farm and garden section of Craigslist... Granted some need it - "five day old micro pig bottle babies", "4-1/2 week old kittens", "Nigerian Dwarf Bottle Babies", "Beautiful Solid White Australian Shepherd Puppies" - just to mention some of the ones I have seen in the last day or so.... But it really pi$$es me off when the animal rights nuts go through and start flagging legit livestock ads.

I got so agrevated I put a note at the top of my post, and surprisingly it hasn't been flagged... I have been able to renew it twice without having to type the whole thing again!

https://springfield.craigslist.org/grd/d/ozark-meat-rabbits/6783697918.html


Love the fleas of a thousand camels comment. Ive gone in and flagged posts on the Nashville CL. Many of them deserved it, like people obviously flipping a dog they got from someone for free and then turn around and sell it. Or someone who was selling a trailer but wanted a deposit sent to them thru apple pay before you could come see it? Scam.
Some posts on there are obviously bogus, so I will flag it.
But people who are legitimately selling something and it gets flagged for no reason, thats just someone being vindictive.
 

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It's when they sat "nigerian dwarf two days old bottle baby, already eating feed, will just be on bottle for two more weeks " .......just shoot me:th
People who post those are scum who dont care about the animal. Its just money to them. And anyone who buys from them thinking they can just put it in with thier other animals, or in a pen because, well, its eating feed, it will be ok, are idiots.
 

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It is sad to see newborns just tossed out without any real care for their well being. I would feel gutted if I did that :hide
I've sold some bottle kids, but they are usually at least 6 weeks old, on the same milk the new owner will be using, and always always to an experienced owner, or someone who is going to do the right things. But we also don't sell cheap either and most folks are on a wait list, so we don't really deal with knuckleheads. It absolutely disgusts me seeing folks sell 3 week old kids as "bottle babies" when they've never had a bottle. I feel awful for those that get taken advantage of, just horrible. I've seen kids that were unintentionally starved to death, because they didn't realize that kids need more than a few oz of milk per feeding. It is horrible. Even though many of our bucks go for meat they too are still cared for and either go to experienced goat people or stay here until they're ready to be dinner...

We've actually purchased a two day old goat. But the breeder did all the right things, the kid has colostrum and had milk sent home with him. We bottle fed him with not issues, but we were already experienced with goats.
 

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It's pretty common here to see day old goat kids sold. I don't know if they get colostrum or not, but they are bottle fed by the new owners for a couple to 3 weeks then sold live or home slaughtered for cabrito.
I see notices posted for them (day olds) for sale at the carne Carnicerias almost every time I go in.

For pets or for raising to breeding age, I can see where selling them that young could be misleading at best.
 

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No, we're on the same page. It's why I included the following.
For pets or for raising to breeding age, I can see where selling them that young could be misleading at best.
I fully understand your concern and I tend to share it. I do not like seeing day old dairy calves (usually Holstein) sold on CL for veal and I've seen some awful pictures of them in tiny calf crates and advertised "will make some great veal", but it is the way it is. We can't save them all or make reproducing cows out of them.
(veal calves are slaughtered around 19 weeks)

The problem lies not only with the sellers, but with the very large buying group.
People sell things, primarily because there's a market for them, and because there is a very significant Hispanic population in the US, (about 18% of the US population..around 60 million) that market is equally significant and that market doesn't care which breed they are, nor do they care whether it is a miniature or otherwise.

I see goats of every description, breed and age go thru the sale barns here and the buyers are almost always a specific ethnic demographic and to them, a small dairy goat is just a smaller meal. Add in the Mideast and North African ethnic group and it's another 3% of the US population.
(I'm sure some of the young goats at the sale barn will be raised to maturity, but most, regardless of breed, will become cabrito)
 
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