Black Goat Kid turning orange

Reptigirl

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Well I am very perplexed.

I have a 4 month old Nigerian Dwarf/Myotonic cross Doe. She is Black & white.

About a month ago I noticed a small abscess where she received her CDT shot. I cleaned it flushed it with a small amount of peroxide & filled with antibiotic cream. Well it healed up quickly (still missing fur at that spot though).

After a few days I noticed the fur around that spot turned orange. Was not worried, figured it was from the peroxide. About a week passed and I noticed more and more orange showing up on her. So I gave her a bath with baby shampoo. Here we are 4 weeks past the peroxide cleaning and she is getting orange spots everywhere. The tips of her hair are turning orange and the tips of her ears are turning orange. Just in the last 2 weeks the amount of orange has doubled.

I used VERY little peroxide and I administered it right into the abscess with a VERY Tiny 1 ml syringe (no needle). So i used NO MORE then 1 ml of peroxide. I just don't see how that little could get ALL over her plus it's been 4 weeks and it's getting more noticeable.

I'm new to goats and was wondering if this could be a mineral deficiency? We are in a TERRIBLE drought here and I worry about the goats.

I have 2 adult does in milk & 2 4 month old does.

The 2 goat kids receive:

A small scoop of Purinia Goat Chow mixed with a handful of fine loose alfalfa hay twice a day.
1 very small handful of BOSS daily as a treat.
12 hours a day free range on 6 acres (there is lots of brush but everything is dry from the drought)
Free access to Mana Pro Loose Goat Minerals
Free access to Sudan Hay

I offer fresh fruits and veggies but the wont touch them. I have offered watermelon, cantaloupe, bell peppers, bananas, strawberries, peaches, kale, mustard greens, collard greens, ripe tomato, cucumber, squash apples & carrots. They occasionally will take a nibble, shake there head & walk away.

Any ideas? Am I worried for nothing? I will upload photos as soon as I can find my camera
 

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I know it's been said that dark goats with hair that starts turning copper can be a sign of copper defficiency - maybe that's a possibility?
 

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Here are photos from today

This was the abscess site

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This is her OTHER side
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*Don't mind the grain all over the ground.. I normally feed them in a dish but a VERY bad adult goat knocked over the food container while I was inside getting the camera.*
 

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Our7Wonders said:
I know it's been said that dark goats with hair that starts turning copper can be a sign of copper defficiency - maybe that's a possibility?
If it is a copper deficiency how do I increase there copper intake? Besides drastically increasing the amount of food & minerals that they eat?
 

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That's really weird. We had this goat a while back who after we got her, I noticed her skin started to get a blue tint to it. It looked really weird. About a month or so later, she died. Reason unknown. That was the same year we lost a ton of goats to coccidiosis.
 

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A few more things:

I did recently treat both goat kids for possible coccidia because of sudden onset of diarrhea. Cleared right up after a treatment of Sulmet.

This kid has also had a limp since I got her. I was told her back leg was injured right after birth. When I got her it was a barely noticeable limp. It has started getting a little worse at times. Some days it sees fine. Other days its really noticeable.

I was told her sister (I don't owner her) had something not quiet right with her at birth. She seemed a little odd the few times I met her. She would walk in circles and seemed to be partially blind. The breeder said she was born backwards and was probably that way because of lack of oxygen due to the slow & backwards birth.

Those are just a few more things I can think of that might help. Not sure if they are relevant?

The fact that the orange color is becoming more noticeable has me really worried.
 

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not being judgemental here, but your goat looks thin and the rough coat suggests she is carrying a heavy parasite load. just not a healthy looking goat. maybe a trip to the vet, at least a fecal check to see what kind of dewormer you will need.
 

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Well her is coat is different from her sister & her mom. I was told she has the same coat as the Myotonic buck her mom was bred to. Her coat is VERY thick/dense and longer then the other goats. She is almost shaggy in a way.

This is going to sound stupid but how do I know she is too thin? None of them feel "boney"?

I wish I could run to a vet every time I wanted but I'm not in an area that had "goat vets". The nearest livestock vets I have found are 2 hours away... One is a house call only vet and laughed when I told him my location. The other one is a dog/cat vet who occasionally sees livestock... I can go there but I would rather not drive 4+ hours each way unless it is totally necessary. My own dog/cat vet said she would rather not do a fecal for me because she does not want to be responsible for how I "treat" her "diagnosis".

Everyone has recently been wormed and vaccinated.

I just scared of overfeeding. Maybe I'm not feeding enough? I was told to only do a little grain and a little alfalfa because too much is bad for them. I have increased there food since I got them mainly because of the drought. Do they all look skinny?

Here are some more photos.
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Her sister:
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Here mom:
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I agree with currycomb. You have more than one thing going on there... Sounds like you might be new to goats so here are a couple things you should research: 1) body condition scoring/nutrition 2) parasite management 3) copper bolusing. I highly recommend you get a fecal at your vet without delay. At 4 months coccidiosis can take them from slightly off to no longer living in a scary short amount of time. Then I'd body clip her so that you have a better idea of what's going on under all that hair. She is really thin and I'd be willing to bet that the rough hair coat is largely a result of nutritional deficiencies.
 

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