Got my first 12 hour fill on Willow! Only 12 days fresh. I'm pretty happy with her udder. Biggest thing I would change is teat placement, when her udder is really full it makes it hard to aim into the pail. And she could have better side attachments. But it's definitely an improvement on all of my past goats. I got about 5 cups which is about 2.5 lbs but she was holding back. She'll easily make over a half gallon a day her first freshening.