C&D Farming..oh what a life!

[Jesusfreak101]

The one i use system is based of vacuum. The pump sucks out all the air and once the milk starts flowing really well you can turn it off and the milk should keep flowing for a good while then it will stop when if the cup comes off because she kicks it or if she is all most out and you hit the button again. And also you need to make sure to hit her udder every once in awhile.

 

[Jesusfreak101]

Uh yeah that looks bruised.

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

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the milker I have now....only $88

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

If the milkier is not making some sort of a "tic-toc" sound then it is not pulsating. It has to make some sort of alternating sound. Pulsating is much different from vacuum......
The pulsating is like you milking.... you squeeze from the top of the teat down to the bottom, then release a second, for the teat to refill with milk to squeeze it out again. The pulsating is the same basic thing, it squeezes the teat, releases the pressure, the teat refills, and it squeezes it out again. The milk comes out in alternating streams ......
The adjustment that you are referring to sounds like it only affects the vacuum..... louder or softer probably is stronger or less vacuum. If you watch that you-tube video that I found after going to the site that @frustratedearthmother mentioned, he mentions the vacuum level on the gauge on the pump being in the "green section" which is between 10 and 15.... that is the pounds of pressure of the vacuum. Most dairies keep theirs at 12.5 to 13 to not damage the teat ends.

My gauge doesn’t have numbers, it’s just a dial...we watched a video on how to make a milker...decided to just buy one..that guy said to keep it about 11. If I had any clue where it was at...I’d have never gone past 11... I’m not going to use it..go8n* to watch the video now!!

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

The one i use system is based of vacuum. The pump sucks out all the air and once the milk starts flowing really well you can turn it off and the milk should keep flowing for a good while then it will stop when if the cup comes off because she kicks it or if she is all most out and you hit the button again. And also you need to make sure to hit her udder every once in awhile.

I hit the utter a lot, that’s definitely not an issue..li even massage it, because I want it to come out faster to get 5he machine off of her!! It’s scares me

 

[farmerjan]

I looked at your reference to the one you bought, and several others on there in the 70-100 range. One was a HEPPD something, one was a Frutt..... plus the one you got. They all have nearly the same wording and say that it has a pulsation function, that once moved and sucked", the animal will feel no pain and can "play a massage" ?????? They do not list a "PULSATOR". Several talk about the "breasts" how to properly seat the machine on them.
This tells me they are all FOREIGN. The translation is not correct. Milking machines in this country never talk about breasts on mammals. They are TEATS, and some will refer to nipple size, but never breasts.
And after reading several of them, and watching one, it subtlely shows that you need to put your finger between the teat cup and the udder to allow AIR to get in, to break the cycle, then allow it to suck again, which is how I think they are saying it is a pulsation function. If you put your finger inside the teat cup when it is on, you should feel it squeeze and release on your finger. If not, there is no pulsator. If you put your finger in and the air is sealed off around your finger (or thumb or whatever) and you just feel a continuous sucking squeeze.... leave it on for a few minutes and then take your finger out and see how it feels. It is like cutting off the circulation... which it is because it is not squeezing and releasing.

 

[farmerjan]

You don't need to hit the udder, soft gentle bumps and massages will get alot more milk. BUT IT NEEDS THE ALTERNATING SQUEEZE AND RELEASE.

 

[Duckfarmerpa1]

I looked at your reference to the one you bought, and several others on there in the 70-100 range. One was a HEPPD something, one was a Frutt..... plus the one you got. They all have nearly the same wording and say that it has a pulsation function, that once moved and sucked", the animal will feel no pain and can "play a massage" ?????? They do not list a "PULSATOR". Several talk about the "breasts" how to properly seat the machine on them.
This tells me they are all FOREIGN. The translation is not correct. Milking machines in this country never talk about breasts on mammals. They are TEATS, and some will refer to nipple size, but never breasts.
And after reading several of them, and watching one, it subtlely shows that you need to put your finger between the teat cup and the udder to allow AIR to get in, to break the cycle, then allow it to suck again, which is how I think they are saying it is a pulsation function. If you put your finger inside the teat cup when it is on, you should feel it squeeze and release on your finger. If not, there is no pulsator. If you put your finger in and the air is sealed off around your finger (or thumb or whatever) and you just feel a continuous sucking squeeze.... leave it on for a few minutes and then take your finger out and see how it feels. It is like cutting off the circulation... which it is because it is not squeezing and releasing.

Yes, it did end coming from china, although I had no idea. I thought wording was weird, but they all said basically the same thing. I’ll try my finger in the morning. I’m pretty sure this one is going back, but I’d like to hold on to it until I figure out what not to buy again...and I didn’t SEE any numbers on the metals boxes, where the dial would be, to indicate how high you have it pulsating. Thanks for helping Jan!!

 

[farmerjan]

The only dial I saw would affect the strength of the vacuum, nothing for pulsating.

Anything you buy will have to specifically say it has a pulsator. A couple that I saw , one with a bucket that the milk goes into, has a fist sized thing that sits on top of the bucket.... that is a pulsator like was used for years by surge..... a company that made milking machines . The pulsator is separate from the vacuum.

I still like the one that @frustratedearthmother linked to as fairly reasonable. Plus, USA people to buy from and call if there are problems. Do yourself a favor and send the other back before you are out of the 30 days to return.

Any milking system , WITH A PULSATOR, will run in the $500.00 or more range.

 

[farmerjan]

The gauge will refer to the vacuum pressure, not the pulsator.