chickens really
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Sorry I don't understand the terminology?That looks like my dwarf goats' "huh-uh, oh no you didn't!" face. Mark of a snot goat, it is!
C&D Farming..oh what a life!
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rachels.haven
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Here are some dumb gifs to sort of illustrate the phenomenon. Not all my goats do it, just one doe and her doe kids (and the mom seems to be doing it less lately). They give me THAT look, stick their noses straight up in the air, and prance forcefully away in an exaggerated fashion and more often than not run into other goats because they can't see with their heads thrown back. They also throw tantrums though, so they may be broken goats.
Links to Gifs.
(edited, never mind, links don't work!)
You may have to see it done by humans, in conversation in real life for it to make sense, and not trumped up gifs but on goats it seems to mean "oh no you didn't...
...close the stall door before I snuck out to get grain
...not give me treats I thought I was entitled to
...give attention or food to the wrong goat in front of me
...prevent me from biting you hard especially on the skin when your jacket comes up as you hang sky high hay bags
...flick me on the nose when I did bite you
...et c. "
The other goats don't reciprocate or seem to have time for it and if the offended one gets in their way they will slam them so it really seems to serve no purpose other than a futile (funny) dominance display towards humans when they get "stumped" or stymied. It seems almost freaking human.
Links to Gifs.
(edited, never mind, links don't work!)
You may have to see it done by humans, in conversation in real life for it to make sense, and not trumped up gifs but on goats it seems to mean "oh no you didn't...
...close the stall door before I snuck out to get grain
...not give me treats I thought I was entitled to
...give attention or food to the wrong goat in front of me
...prevent me from biting you hard especially on the skin when your jacket comes up as you hang sky high hay bags
...flick me on the nose when I did bite you
...et c. "
The other goats don't reciprocate or seem to have time for it and if the offended one gets in their way they will slam them so it really seems to serve no purpose other than a futile (funny) dominance display towards humans when they get "stumped" or stymied. It seems almost freaking human.
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Duckfarmerpa1
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I think she mean mean, a little “snot”, like you’d say to a child who’s being mischievous...
chickens really
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Denise I just had to post my new girls here. Dottie and Heidi 
Bruce
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So is it nature or nurture??
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Duckfarmerpa1
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They are just beautiful!! Better seeing them on my computer screen than my little phone!! Are they mingling in with Ozzy and Fancy ok?Denise I just had to post my new girls here. Dottie and Heidi ❤
chickens really
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I haven’t introduced them yet. I want to tame them first.
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Duckfarmerpa1
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So, we’re now looking, casually, for a ND buck, or buckling for the fall. Yesterday we went to see a young buck. He was about 6 months old...but no stink. Small privates, very timid, which, that might have been a plus. But, we were concerned about the fact that he wasn’t, doing the buck thing at this point...the tinkle on the face? I know the6 can start that rather young. The man said he got him to breed his does, but nothin* happened. So, he had been exposed to does for months and still no stink. So we passed. So, here’s my question...if we buy a buckling now...is there a darned good chance he won’t be old enoug( to breed this fall? Or was this lad just a fluke? Or, was it just that he was not in rut? Plus, if we buy a buckling, how do we know, that he’ll be small enough to breed with all my girls? At this point my smallest gal is Roxy, Busty’s doeling. She’s taller than the Pygmy twins but not near as chubby...
im trying to milk Honey now. Got an idea from @Jesusfreak101 to tie her from the ceiling...yep, you heard that right! Hobbles don’t work, nothing does. So, we made a strap with a nice cloth saddle for her belly, I hook it to the wall. shes not suspended, but she can’t lay down. It’s working pretty good. Now I just have to separate he4 from Sugar for a hard wean. Sugar is too chunky and too old to still be on the test. Plus, I want that milk....Honey will be in the othe4 fenced area tomorrow, after we time to fix the little hole she has found to dig under. She is sooo bad! Sugar usually nurses through the fence. If that happens, I’ll have to lick up Honey, but I don’t want the kids lef5 out in the cold weather right now, so my plan might need postponed for a week or so? Always something...oh well, could be much worse!!
w3 sold the goats to a local friend. All together. So, I can actually go see Brooke. I’m happy with that solution.
. im trying to milk Honey now. Got an idea from @Jesusfreak101 to tie her from the ceiling...yep, you heard that right! Hobbles don’t work, nothing does. So, we made a strap with a nice cloth saddle for her belly, I hook it to the wall. shes not suspended, but she can’t lay down. It’s working pretty good. Now I just have to separate he4 from Sugar for a hard wean. Sugar is too chunky and too old to still be on the test. Plus, I want that milk....Honey will be in the othe4 fenced area tomorrow, after we time to fix the little hole she has found to dig under. She is sooo bad! Sugar usually nurses through the fence. If that happens, I’ll have to lick up Honey, but I don’t want the kids lef5 out in the cold weather right now, so my plan might need postponed for a week or so? Always something...oh well, could be much worse!!
w3 sold the goats to a local friend. All together. So, I can actually go see Brooke. I’m happy with that solution.
chickens really
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Nigerian Dwarfs breed all year long. Not like other breeds that only come into season in the Fall. I am happy that you found a home for the other goats so quickly. I bet you are very relieved..
rachels.haven
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It's not face peeing season right now, so I wouldn't worry about that. They will anyway, but not as often.
ND bucks can breed very early, so he will very likely be able to do his job in the fall. 6 months is the point that one of the lines i have can just start to reliably breed...maybe. The other option is a buckling that wants to breed from 6 weeks on and I have some of those too. It depends on if they are dominant and high hormone enough. This buckling is young. If you are worried about his lack of settling does you can always find another to buy instead BUT I don't think this buckling was fairly judged in his current home. He's still a baby.
Personally I'd look more at what his dam's udder and teats look like at least. You may have to milk daughters and you don't want to wind up milking cat teats. Maybe evaluate some general soundness conformation. Definitely evaluate temperament and feet. He's half your herd. You could potentially have a herd full of goats that look just like him in a few years.
If you put him in with your does when you want babies in at least 5 months, chances are you will definitely have babies unless the does either a) don't like him or b)he's infertile, but I get the impression it's on the rarer side to have an infertile goat buck.
But if you do get him, my opinion is that he should be allowed to grow out at least until fall before expected to perform, poor dear.
ND bucks can breed very early, so he will very likely be able to do his job in the fall. 6 months is the point that one of the lines i have can just start to reliably breed...maybe. The other option is a buckling that wants to breed from 6 weeks on and I have some of those too. It depends on if they are dominant and high hormone enough. This buckling is young. If you are worried about his lack of settling does you can always find another to buy instead BUT I don't think this buckling was fairly judged in his current home. He's still a baby.
Personally I'd look more at what his dam's udder and teats look like at least. You may have to milk daughters and you don't want to wind up milking cat teats. Maybe evaluate some general soundness conformation. Definitely evaluate temperament and feet. He's half your herd. You could potentially have a herd full of goats that look just like him in a few years.
If you put him in with your does when you want babies in at least 5 months, chances are you will definitely have babies unless the does either a) don't like him or b)he's infertile, but I get the impression it's on the rarer side to have an infertile goat buck.
But if you do get him, my opinion is that he should be allowed to grow out at least until fall before expected to perform, poor dear.
