CAE Exposure?

[babsbag]

I asked someone today about that dairy and yes it is Redwood Hills that has basically two herds.

That only problem showing CAE + animals is the other exhibitors may not be very happy. I was at a show one day where a doe was leaking milk as she walked around the ring and the owner just casually mentioned that the doe was CAE +. People were mightly ticked.

There is no problem milking CAE positive animals as long as they are asymptomatic but if they develop symptoms then they aren't much good on the milk line either. You would think if you have a CAE positive herd and you know that you do it would only be a matter of time and the CAE animals would be gone and your herd clean IF the CAE prevention is working.

Redwoo Hills is a huge force in shows and breeding out here and I admire them for being honest but I don't think that personally I would spend the kind of money their animals demand on a kid from a CAE posititive doe, but that is JMO and no reflection on them or their animals. They have beautiful goats.

 

[Pearce Pastures]

No right or wrong answer I suppose in dealing with it. It can be costly either way---culling or contending. I'd rather cull and keep a clean herd. Not having unthrifty animals saves me in feed and supplies, and it doesn't cost me anything extra to buy from a tested herd but culling and testing does cost too. It's a personal choice, and is the same with other illnesses too. Some folks feel orf, CL and such are livable too but to each his own.

 

[OneFineAcre]

I asked someone today about that dairy and yes it is Redwood Hills that has basically two herds.

That only problem showing CAE + animals is the other exhibitors may not be very happy. I was at a show one day where a doe was leaking milk as she walked around the ring and the owner just casually mentioned that the doe was CAE +. People were mightly ticked.

There is no problem milking CAE positive animals as long as they are asymptomatic but if they develop symptoms then they aren't much good on the milk line either. You would think if you have a CAE positive herd and you know that you do it would only be a matter of time and the CAE animals would be gone and your herd clean IF the CAE prevention is working.

Redwoo Hills is a huge force in shows and breeding out here and I admire them for being honest but I don't think that personally I would spend the kind of money their animals demand on a kid from a CAE posititive doe, but that is JMO and no reflection on them or their animals. They have beautiful goats.

Yes I was referring to Redwood Hills
I doubt there is another dairy in Sonoma with 300 goats
But I could be wrong
Seems Sonoma is more known for wine
Like Humbolt County is known for weed

I don't know them so I don't know if they show CAE positive animals or even sell their offspring
We had a shock this year when a local breeder had a batch of
CAE positive kids
When they were at NC State fair a lot of us wondered ..... But I honestly don't think they brought positive animals
Now as far a Redwood Hills I don't know them but if they are keeping those animals I would suspect they are productive and I don't think we need to be concerned about their expenses for maintaining those animals
I have a CAE negative herd and it is very easy for me to say I would cull a positive animal

 

[Goat Whisperer]

I know several breeders that shows CAE + goats. They take every precaution to keep it contained so the other goats are not at risk.

Honesty, most of us on BYH aren't big enough to be selling kids that come from CAE + stock. I know I couldn't. I don't have a line built, I may have some good goats but certainly not the top goats country at this time.

That being said, I would cull if I ever had CAE in my herd. Its not something I will mess with. PERIOD.

I wouldn't be surprised if RWH's sells goats out of CAE+ goats....... LOOK at their line! The have done so much and have some stunning goats!

I did see this on their site

We test for CAE annually and separate any CAE positive animals with the suggested 6 ft. between fence lines. We milk all positive animals last and use protective measures when vaccinating and doing general goat care.

In order to insure that all our kids reach their full genetic potential, we attend every kidding and take precautions to make sure that the kids are unable to nurse. Kids are removed immediately from their dams, and raised in a separate facility where they stay until they are sold or moved to the main facility to be kept in our breeding program. They are fed heat treated goat colostrum and pasteurized goat milk, yogurt, and whey until weaning. Alfalfa hay is offered free choice from 2 weeks old, and molasses grain with a deccox pellet is offered starting at 5 weeks. Our kids are given preventative deccox powder in their milk starting at 2 weeks old. Any kid offered for sale will have its fist CD-T vaccination prior to shipping.

 

[babsbag]

But the fact that they test yearling and separate positive animals makes me think that they are still seeing animals show up positive that weren't before. Maybe it is just the wording they used. IDK, I pray I never have to make those tough choices.

Since I raise Alpines and they have some of the top Alpine genetics in their herd it is pretty hard not to admire their goats. The owner of the dairy judges a lot of our shows too; really nice lady but walking up to her and asking "do you show your CAE positive goats" probably wouldn't be welcomed with a smile.

Interesting that they feed yogurt and whey. I can see the whey, what else to do with it, but yogurt....costs money to make yogurt so they must find it to be a great benefit to the kids. I should go tour the place some day and ask all those hard questions.