CL in pregnant doe?

[Rose N Lynne Farm]

I have a pregnant doe with a swollen spot by her lymph node. I haven't had it tested yet but I am just assuming CL so I can either be prepared for the results or extremely happy with the results. She is about 2 months in, Due on July 14. Is there anything I can do? Will it affect the babies? I know there's no treatment but I'm not sure how to be better prepared. She's separated from the rest of our herd until we get the results.

 

[Rose N Lynne Farm]

Anyone?

 

[alsea1]

If the results came back positive if it were me I would choose to cull her.
I know we get attached to them, but the task of keeping her from infecting the others is monumental. Especially when considering the antics that are common with goats and their social nature.
I know some folks would choose to make adj. and deal with it.
My understanding is that once a goat has it that's it. No cure.
I hope your results come back just a silly infection and nothing more.

 

[Rose N Lynne Farm]

She is pregnant. We will not be culling her.

 

[Pearce Pastures]

If the results came back positive if it were me I would choose to cull her.
I know we get attached to them, but the task of keeping her from infecting the others is monumental. Especially when considering the antics that are common with goats and their social nature.
I know some folks would choose to make adj. and deal with it.
My understanding is that once a goat has it that's it. No cure.
I hope your results come back just a silly infection and nothing more.

I'd be doing the same here.

 

[Canadiannee]

Rose N Lynne... I know the advice being given is very difficult to accept... NO ONE wants to have to cull an animal, especially an animal they care about so deeply. Do know these posters are giving you their best advice from experience... if it is CL, it is not something you want to infect your herd... There are many years of posts on this forum talking about experiences with CL and perhaps searching thru those topics might help you to understand why most believe culling is the only answer... sadly, as of yet there is no cure.

Now I have heard of a few breeders who have set up strict quarantine on does with CL and have delivered the babes under strict guidelines that do not allow any exposure to the doe's birthing fluids (inluding not allowing the kids to ingest colostrum and milk from the doe)... but from my understanding, it doesn't always guarantee the kids will come out CL free...

I have been fortunate not to have come across a case of CL in my herd, however, if I did, I have to agree with the other posters... I'd have to cull the infected animal because 1) I could not put the rest of my herd in jeporady, and 2) morally and ethically, I could not sell any of their off-spring... Respectful goat breeders are trying to eradicate CL and CAE from their herds, and for many, it is costing them large dollars financially, the loss of good breeding animals and the years of offspring that these does/bucks would produce. Nothing can be more devastating even to a seasoned breeder to make this decision, but they do it for a good cause...

My heart goes out to you, and I hope your tests come back with something as silly as an infected splinter or something like that... please keep us updated, 'cause we care

 

[Southern by choice]

There is a great deal to this subject, and it gets very heated. A goat with CL may have 1 lump that appears and does burst open and never have another. A goat that does have a lump should be quarantined until the abscess bursts or is lanced and cleaned and the wound MUST be healed up completely before going back to the herd. When lancing the abscess it should be done over a tarp that can be disposed of and quarantine area should be a place where no other goats will ever be. A goat that has lump after lump should be culled.
If this is a dairy goat and you show, the goat should never be shown again IMO. CL can take a while to show up. Average time is 4-6 months before showing a symptom.

It is more about management. Would I want it in my flock...no , of course not.
Of course this is just a snippet to consider, the subject is much bigger than a few sentences can sum up.

 

[sprocket]

Hi y'all. I have a pregnant doe with a swollen spot by her lymph node. I haven't had it tested yet but I am just assuming CL so I can either be prepared for the results or extremely happy with the results. She is about 2 months in, Due on July 14. Is there anything I can do? Will it affect the babies? I know there's no treatment but I'm not sure how to be better prepared. She's separated from the rest of our herd until we get the results.

Please help. I'm absolutely distraught over this.

Pull the babies at birth and raise them on the bottle. If you manage to get them as they're popping out, you have a greatly reduced chance of CL spreading to them. I've done the same with very good results.

After she has kidded out, you can choose to cull her or keep her, and deal with the symptoms.

 

[Southern by choice]

It is not transmittable by milk, like CAE is.

 

[Canadiannee]

Thanks for the correction Southern... we don't hear about it much in our parts, and those I know who have experience CL have said it is passed thru milk... glad to learn otherwise!