CL in pregnant doe?

[Marianne]

The decision is NOT can you treat the goat...you indeed can do that. You MUST quarantine the goat and get your formalin...the formalin proces is not that difficult and does work. However, the decision is can you keep the remainder of your goats healthy? You will always have to watch for an absess to appear and be certain it does not release bacteria to contaminate your pasture, barn, pens, etc. Monitoring and treating ONE goat may not be a problem, but treatment for multiple goats gets trickier and is a forever deal. At this stage, I vote for completing the pregnancy, a careful delivery of bottle baby(ies), and having those kids tested. I would also consider the new CL vaccine. However, the valuable 80% protection afforded by the vaccination has a downside...your goats will always test positive for CL.

 

[babsbag]

The decision is NOT can you treat the goat...you indeed can do that. You MUST quarantine the goat and get your formalin...the formalin proces is not that difficult and does work. However, the decision is can you keep the remainder of your goats healthy? You will always have to watch for an absess to appear and be certain it does not release bacteria to contaminate your pasture, barn, pens, etc. Monitoring and treating ONE goat may not be a problem, but treatment for multiple goats gets trickier and is a forever deal. At this stage, I vote for completing the pregnancy, a careful delivery of bottle baby(ies), and having those kids tested. I would also consider the new CL vaccine. However, the valuable 80% protection afforded by the vaccination has a downside...your goats will always test positive for CL.

I would rethink the Formalin injection. This is from the Merck Vet. Manual

The practice of injecting abscesses with formalin should be strongly discouraged because the FDA has zero tolerance for extra-label use of a potent carcinogen in a food-producing animal.

I would also be afraid of it getting in the milk if you intend to milk her. And last but not least, I would consider the possibility that it is very painful for the poor goat. If it were a cure that would be one thing, but it simply a way to make the abcess go away faster.

IMO. Formalin is not worth it.

 

[sprocket]

I would rethink the Formalin injection. This is from the Merck Vet. Manual

The practice of injecting abscesses with formalin should be strongly discouraged because the FDA has zero tolerance for extra-label use of a potent carcinogen in a food-producing animal.

I would also be afraid of it getting in the milk if you intend to milk her. And last but not least, I would consider the possibility that it is very painful for the poor goat. If it were a cure that would be one thing, but it simply a way to make the abcess go away faster.

IMO. Formalin is not worth it.

Agreed. I would not go with formalin - lancing and cleaning with iodine is equally as effective, with much fewer downsides.

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

Do NOT do the Formalin injection. Also can someone PLEASE tell me why people keep saying to bottle feed? THERE IS ZERO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BOTTLE FEED, unless there is an open abscess at time of kids being on dam, which there will not be.

 

[BlondeSquirrel04]

Do NOT do the Formalin injection. Also can someone PLEASE tell me why people keep saying to bottle feed? THERE IS ZERO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BOTTLE FEED, unless there is an open abscess at time of kids being on dam, which there will not be.

Because everyone lumps (no pun intended!) CL and CAE into the same category out of ignorance!

 

[sprocket]

Do NOT do the Formalin injection. Also can someone PLEASE tell me why people keep saying to bottle feed? THERE IS ZERO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BOTTLE FEED, unless there is an open abscess at time of kids being on dam, which there will not be.

These would be my reasons:

1) Do you know the CAE status of the goat? If no, or yes and it's positive, then bottle feed.
2) Is the rest of the herd CL negative? If yes, then cull the CL+ doe and bottle feed.
3) Do you sell goat's milk? If yes, then put the babies on replacer and bottle feed.

I know we've touched on this briefly in other parts of the thread, but why are you so adamantly opposed to bottle feeding?

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

I'm not against bottle feeding but I can't stand how people who don't know just lump CAE and CL together, as Blonde Squirrel said. I know you know and are smart on this subject but this "you must automatically bottle feed with CL"

Everyone is saying to bottle feed. She has no reason to bottle feed.

 

[nightskygazer]

So just a couple quick newbie questions here. All due respect to you Rose N lynne for what you are going through. Does a CL abscess always have that life span of the number of days/weeks till it bursts? Or is it possible for a goat to have an abscess long term that just never bursts? Last part to the question is there ever any other reason a goat may get an abscess?

 

[BlondeSquirrel04]

So just a couple quick newbie questions here. All due respect to you Rose N lynne for what you are going through. Does a CL abscess always have that life span of the number of days/weeks till it bursts? Or is it possible for a goat to have an abscess long term that just never bursts? Last part to the question is there ever any other reason a goat may get an abscess?

Sort of. Most abscesses grow for a few weeks, then the hair on it falls off, then it ruptures. Usually the time frame is around a month, but every goat is different.

Goats may get abscesses from injections, injuries, insect bites, etc. There are common places for a CL abscess to appear (google image it). If it ruptures and the pus is toothpaste thick, yellowy-green, and odorless, chances are that's what it is.