clumpy poo with white dots

[Moonshine]

I agree with Southern, its tape. I just dosed my girls with ivermecin and my youngest girl had tape in her poo for 3 weeks. I dosed 3 times 10 days apart. Her poo was dog logs but it had the white spots in it and when I wouldn't see any tape I'd take a stick and break it apart and found tape.

I have a question. If her doe is passing tape worm, would that mean she passing them naturally due to them dying from a natural dewormer or could she just be overloaded with them and that's the cause for passing without worming?

Also I found this thread very interesting and helpful. I didn't know that Cocci was from mites being digested.

 

[Southern by choice]

Uh. oh... Cocci isn't from mites being ingested. Cocci needs to be ingested... therefore goats walking around and cocci is on the ground, in the fecal etc, the goats walk through that. It is more about the goats licking and chewing their feet that can cause the ingestion cycle. If the feet have mites etc then the chewing and licking can just keep the cycle going. Goats are always going to have some fecal matter on their feet. Hopefully that explains it a little better.

Usually you can see tapes moving in the fecal, that means it is alive.

Natural dewormers do not kill... they act as more of a barrier not allowing the reproduction, different herbals will cause a coating etc that prevents the reproduction or feeding. That is why with natural/herbals it needs to be given on a regular basis so they eventually die off. Some stun etc we have lots of Lespedeza here, that is a natural "preventative".

Anthelmintics- or de-wormers, depending on the class, act differently. Some stun, some paralyze, some kill. I know that was simplifying it a bit.

I think you know this but I will say this just in case... cocci are not worms they are (single-celled) protozoan parasites. De-wormers do not effect cocci.

Here is a good animation... http://www.goatbiology.com/animations/coccid.html

 

[treeclimber233]

Tapeworms attach to the side of the intestine. They release egg segments that are passed out in the poop as a means of reproduction. The actual mature tapeworm is still attached inside the intestine. So the small white things you are seeing in the poop is actually a segment and not the worm. The most interesting thing about these segments is they can move on their own until they dry out.

 

[NaturesPace]

Just to confirm Southern and Tree, you think that the white bits are parts of the tapeworm and Ivermectin works well on tapeworms?
do you know the dosing off the top of your head? I will look it up otherwise.
thanks everyone for the help.

 

[Southern by choice]

I like the Safeguard for goats. The dosage is on the label and FOR goats. The nice thing is it is not an "off-label" drug so you donot need supervision of a vet, although it is always good to update your vet.
Safeguard (fenbendaazole) for goats- 10%suspension (100mg/mL)
25lb=0.6ml
50lb=1.2ml
75lb=1.7ml
100lb=2.3ml

Below is all bout tapes in sheep and goats. It will help you understand more about these parasites.

http://www.sheepandgoat.com/articles/tapeworms.html