Cocci prevention..chem free?

[RockyToggRanch]

That's all they had was the powder. I went to both local feed stores. I'll look up the liquid and try to compare. Thank you.

 

[Terry]

I see you have some great replies. I knew a woman down the road here, that ended up with her whole herd having cocci. It's was horrible and she lost some babies. The one thing she could have done to better prevent it, was to keep the water containers and grounds, cleaner. PLUS she let her chickens run loose WITH the goats. They can cause cocci and were fouling the grouns and water. I know alot of people allow their chickens to run loose. It's makes a farm right? Well, they can cause cocci and it's down-right dirty IMO.

I posted this to help. I sure hope I didn't ruffle anyone's feathers.

Terry

 

[Goatherd]

PLUS she let her chickens run loose WITH the goats. They can cause cocci and were fouling the grouns and water. I know alot of people allow their chickens to run loose. It's makes a farm right? Well, they can cause cocci and it's down-right dirty IMO.

My goodness, the horror! No ruffled feathers here. I do let my chickens, ducks, guineas, geese, pea fowl, and one turkey free range. They also sleep in the barn WITH the goats.
I guess one man's dirty is another man's not-so-dirty.

 

[Terry]

PLUS she let her chickens run loose WITH the goats. They can cause cocci and were fouling the grounds and water. I know alot of people allow their chickens to run loose. It's makes a farm right? Well, they can cause cocci and it's down-right dirty IMO.

My goodness, the horror! No ruffled feathers here. I do let my chickens, ducks, guineas, geese, pea fowl, and one turkey free range. They also sleep in the barn WITH the goats.
I guess one man's dirty is another man's not-so-dirty.

Oh I'm sure your animals are fine, for now. But unless your chickens are house-broken, to go in one spot, their feces can cause stuff. When this woman's animals came down with it, it happend fast & furious! Half her herd died and the others were very sick. She admitted to being too busy to keep things as clean as she should. Not that you aren't, just saying.

Guess I should learn to keep my info to myself. I just joined and am already making non-friends.

Terry

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

Chickens can easily spread cocci by walking around on the ground (picking up oocysts) then jumping onto feeders, water buckets, into the hay, etc. If you do let chickens have access to goat feed/water areas it's that much more important to keep soil parasite loads down and keep on top of coccidiosis prevention. Cocci are not the only thing chickens can contaminate feed and water with either...

 

[20kidsonhill]

1/2 teaspoon of powder will treat 40 lbs of goat at the rate of 50mg of amprolium per 2.2 lbs of body weight. This is the rate that Helmstead is using with the liquid corid.

So You can mix the 1/2 teaspoon of powder as you wish to treat the specific size of goat you need to treat.
Perhaps the easiest would be to mix it in 4 teaspoons of water and each teaspoon(5cc) would then treat 10lbs of goat. This is 5 times the label dosage of giving 10mg of amprolium to 2.2 lbs of body wieght.

To make it even more confussing, I don't treat at that high of rate. At the very most I only treat at half that dosage, so for every teaspoon(5cc) of finished mix I would treat 20lbs of goat. But I prefer to treat them twice a day.



Finished mix:

1/2teaspoon powder to 4 teaspoon or 20cc of water. Mix and treat at the rate of 5cc per 10lbs of body weight once a day. or my recommendation would be 5cc per 20lbs of body weight twice a day. for 5 days in a row.

 

[Terry]

Chickens can easily spread cocci by walking around on the ground (picking up oocysts) then jumping onto feeders, water buckets, into the hay, etc. If you do let chickens have access to goat feed/water areas it's that much more important to keep soil parasite loads down and keep on top of coccidiosis prevention. Cocci are not the only thing chickens can contaminate feed and water with either...

They sure can. Not to mention letting human children run barefoot, where the foul have messed. The amish here have turkeys & chickens running loose, messing all over the place. The kids run right around the same areas. Then, the kids take turns having a runny nose, and being sick. I'd suspect it's because the animals are allowed to poop any where they want. Facts are facts!

Again, I am sorry if anything I say upsets anyone. That's not my intention at all. Just an old animal lover here!

Terry

 

[Goatherd]

No need to apologize, least of all, to me. Like you, I expressed my opinion concerning free-range birds and goats. I'm also sorry if you feel that your opinion wasn't embraced and agreed upon by me.
I also am not so naive as to think that there can't be cross contamination from different species of animals and fowl.

I obviously raise my animals differently than you...doesn't make either of us right or wrong. I've also seen goat folks raise their animals under pristine conditions without the benefit of bird contamination and have more issues than I could dream possible.

And by the way...welcome to BYHF.

 

[Terry]

No need to apologize, least of all, to me. Like you, I expressed my opinion concerning free-range birds and goats. I'm also sorry if you feel that your opinion wasn't embraced and agreed upon by me.
I also am not so naive as to think that there can't be cross contamination from different species of animals and fowl.

I obviously raise my animals differently than you...doesn't make either of us right or wrong. I've also seen goat folks raise their animals under pristine conditions without the benefit of bird contamination and have more issues than I could dream possible.

And by the way...welcome to BYHF.

It's not just goats that I worry about. I am possibly older than you, and worry about our health as well. We'd like to have chickens for the eggs, but I don't want to breathe the dust from them. So there's another topic. Lol..

 

[Goatherd]

I'm older than dirt, live life on the edge and have fresh eggs EVERY DAY for breakfast. I'll save you the time...no cholesterol problems here!