farmerjan
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New York had more than enough help offered and provided and that sorry gov turned it down and did not use it. Don't even start about that. I have family in NY state, more just over the border in southwest Ct. and other areas up there. There are way too many examples of the total mismanaged situation there. Following the "guidelines" that several of my family have done has resulted in cases of covid anyway. A really good friend is an EMT and has been so "over the end" of following guidelines and still got it. And she has not yet had a call that the actual patient tested positive.
It is serious, but it has gotten to the point that there will never be an end to this as.... as soon as it does die down, there will be another "horrible disease" outbreak. There are plenty of treatments that many doctors are trying to get out there in front of the public and they are being "squashed". They didn't want to allow any treatments that weren't approved, so many died because of that. They didn't want to treat early, send them home and then if you get sick enough to need to be in the hospital, go there, get stuck on a ventilator and die anyway. Early treatment is the key but it has been put down because many of the protocols are not what the "experts" in research have said are what should be done. I have family in the medical field. I can tell you enough horror stories of stupidity that would turn your stomach. How many videos of nurses that have been pulled, that tell of the terrible things they saw. There are alot of very good, very overworked health care people. Local here, they were laying off help due to no elected surgeries, and not enough "traffic" in the hospital with so much that had been transitioned to "covid care".
A good friend has had it, here locally; her son in Alaska had it. He were getting his temp taken daily and swabbed twice a week. He got it, and had to take a 2 week "paid leave", and now doesn't have to test anymore... No masks nothing now.
The longer the shut down, the longer all this is going to drag out. Herd immunity needs 40% before it starts to have trouble finding a ready host.... we need to either reach some of the herd immunity, or a vaccine; it can lay dormant from what the latest research shows. So we may as well accept that it will always be something that will be around now, just like the flu. Mutations have reached in the neighborhood of 23 strains I read recently. So like the flu, any shot will only protect 10-40% if they hit the right mutation as being prominent that year.
Some people are going to have problems, some are going to die. They die from every other thing too. It is a sad fact of life. But those that live are going to have to deal with the fallout of the country falling apart. And it is going to be worse than what most people have any clue about. Why are so many looking at becoming more independent and self-sufficient??? Because people know that there is a very bad wind coming across this country. Not just financial but also health related. Being as healthy and as well developed an immune system as possible, is going to be what saves many of us.
It is serious, but it has gotten to the point that there will never be an end to this as.... as soon as it does die down, there will be another "horrible disease" outbreak. There are plenty of treatments that many doctors are trying to get out there in front of the public and they are being "squashed". They didn't want to allow any treatments that weren't approved, so many died because of that. They didn't want to treat early, send them home and then if you get sick enough to need to be in the hospital, go there, get stuck on a ventilator and die anyway. Early treatment is the key but it has been put down because many of the protocols are not what the "experts" in research have said are what should be done. I have family in the medical field. I can tell you enough horror stories of stupidity that would turn your stomach. How many videos of nurses that have been pulled, that tell of the terrible things they saw. There are alot of very good, very overworked health care people. Local here, they were laying off help due to no elected surgeries, and not enough "traffic" in the hospital with so much that had been transitioned to "covid care".
A good friend has had it, here locally; her son in Alaska had it. He were getting his temp taken daily and swabbed twice a week. He got it, and had to take a 2 week "paid leave", and now doesn't have to test anymore... No masks nothing now.
The longer the shut down, the longer all this is going to drag out. Herd immunity needs 40% before it starts to have trouble finding a ready host.... we need to either reach some of the herd immunity, or a vaccine; it can lay dormant from what the latest research shows. So we may as well accept that it will always be something that will be around now, just like the flu. Mutations have reached in the neighborhood of 23 strains I read recently. So like the flu, any shot will only protect 10-40% if they hit the right mutation as being prominent that year.
Some people are going to have problems, some are going to die. They die from every other thing too. It is a sad fact of life. But those that live are going to have to deal with the fallout of the country falling apart. And it is going to be worse than what most people have any clue about. Why are so many looking at becoming more independent and self-sufficient??? Because people know that there is a very bad wind coming across this country. Not just financial but also health related. Being as healthy and as well developed an immune system as possible, is going to be what saves many of us.
I'll plan to go. Better take a couple folded cages along, In case. 
