Coffee anyone ?

[Bruce]

The vaccine that they are pushing has been pushed through the system so fast that the proper safety trials haven’t been done, and people are getting severely sick from them,

No one has had the vaccine other than those in the trial and the reports are that there is very little in the way of side effects. I do believe they have pushed hard to get a vaccine (I wish they would work as hard on many other diseases) but I do not think they will put it out without proper safety trials. Even when it is started to be distributed most won't have the opportunity to take (or choose to reject it) for many, many months. If there are problems with those that get it first I'm sure we'll hear about it.

And then there is the claim that Covid is no worse, in fact not as bad, than the flu:
In the very worst years 60,000 Americans die from the flu. 250,000 have died to date from Covid since February.

"CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."
Source: CDC article on the flu

And to those who subscribe to the claim that the number of Covid cases is being inflated to make it looks worse than it is I give you this:

"So far this year, 2.39 million Americans have died of all causes. At the same point in both 2018 and 2019, it was 2.17 million. The difference nearly matches the reported number of COVID-19 victims. (my emphasis on their text so it is easily seen)

When comparing over the course of the full year, 2.84 million people died during all of 2019, and 2.83 million people died in 2018. By using the rate of deaths so far in 2020 and extrapolating through the end of the year (a simple projection), more than 3.1 million people will have died by December 31."

Source: Texas CBS article

 

[farmerjan]

And one of my farmers has his OWN EYEWITNESS PROOF that on 2 instances, 2 different people were reported as having died from "Covid-19".... one was an elderly man who had chronic heart problems, they were waiting for the call since he had "died" already twice in the recent past.... yet his death certificate listed covid and he had never been tested....and a 22 yr old young guy who died in a car wreck..... hit a tree at over 60 mph..... DRUNK .... listed as covid death.... So don't tell me that there isn't alot of that going on everywhere. It is about the money with that. So those 2 random off the cuff, cases are not necessarily the EXCEPTIONS.... there are too many random cases that get talked about to make that the exception....

 

[farmerjan]

As the population numbers go up, the number of deaths will continue to creep up too. I am not saying that there have not been numerous deaths from Covid.... But in the greatest majority of those cases the persons that have died have had many other different underlying problems.

 

[Bunnylady]

It is about the money with that.

What money?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/

There seems to be some misunderstanding that somehow, a Covid diagnosis automatically means some certain amount of money will be paid to the doctor or institution that makes that diagnosis. That is FALSE, as indicated by the link above. The way I read it, if a person on Medicare is admitted to a hospital with respiratory illness, Medicare will pay for their treatment, with certain values having been set for certain types of treatment, regardless of whether they have Coronavirus or some other cause for the illness. That's not at all the same thing as a guaranteed additional payment simply because Covid was written on some form somewhere.

 

[farmerjan]

Read your article and others on the payment system for the different treatments.... I will not argue it as I have no proof that it is not true that there is "no incentive"..... yet the 2 cases that I cited are definitely not figments of my imagination.... nor that of the farmer who saw the death certificates himself, and the families of both the 2 that died with the false cause of death. And I have heard stories like this other places.... so what is the reasoning .... if not monetary..... for obvious and blatant false causes of death listed....?????

 

[promiseacres]

Coffee is on.
60s today. Letting the wood burner take a break. school and riding this afternoon, just a lesson at home. 2years ago we signed papers on the farm.

 

[Baymule]

Thanks for the coffee. I cooked 2 of my Giant Pink Banana squash yesterday, froze 4 packages of 1 cup each for future pie or pumpkin bread. I put the other in the refrigerator and am about to go make pumpkin bread. Then I can go do chores while it cooks.

 

[Mini Horses]

Wow...PA doesn't seem 2 yrs....maybe one. I keep losing years.

Coffee hot and plentiful...help yourself. Hot tea or cocoa there if you want that instead.

Had frost again this morn but, no clouds and big sun burned it off fast. Much lighter than yesterday.....not as cold for tonight, so no frost tomorrow. I even had about 1/4" of ice on water tubs yesterday. A reminder of days to come. Not favorite days. Get ready. . It's gonna be nice day today! Good..outside all day.

Some egg customers woke up -- 8 dz out the door yesterday. Good because the girls arei Finally cranking up. They sure look great in their new feather finery.

 

[messybun]

Well, I’ve got a couple dozen duck eggs to sell and a load of dirt coming for random holes in the yard. How’s your morning been shaping up?

 

[thistlebloom]

Weather looks rideable today lol.
I was looking for a recipe for sweet potato rolls online yesterday so I could experiment before Thanksgiving, and found one with 2 ingredients. Flour (self rising) and sweet potato. It was too intriguing to pass up. I had to make my own self rising flour so it was more than two ingredients, but hey.
They turned out not bad. Maybe not bad isn't good enough for Thanksgiving but I think I'll throw them on the table anyway, haha.