Coffee anyone ?

[greybeard]

For the past few years we have tried to e-file. But each time we did that, we'd get an email stating that it was "rejected" and asked that we check our info (DOB, SSN) to make sure it's correct. I checked all of that nothing was incorrect. So I just mail them.

There is a possibility, that someone else has 'borrowed' your SSN or other identifying data at one time or you made an error on one of your previous paper filings and IRS people eyes didn't catch that. Could be something as simple as a misspelled name, incorrect address, misspelled address, different ph # or anything else that a modern computer's query finds right away. One wrong letter or digit and the cross check software kicks it out...rejects it.

 

[Bruce]

But they still want their money.

 

[greybeard]

Yep..if money truly is the root of all evil, then the IRS is satan himself...

 

[Baymule]

We closed down a business. A few months later, I got two checks totaling almost $27,000 from the IRS. It was 6 months of employee with holding taxes that I had filed and paid in monthly. The IRS had the closing date wrong and refunded me all that money THAT WASN'T MINE. I finally went to Marvin Zindler, Channel 13 News in Houston, a consumer advocate, to get them to take their money back.

Abolish the IRS and go to a flat consumption tax.

 

[promiseacres]

Coffee is on

 

[Wehner Homestead]

Thanks! I need it!!

 

[greybeard]

We closed down a business. A few months later, I got two checks totaling almost $27,000 from the IRS. It was 6 months of employee with holding taxes that I had filed and paid in monthly. The IRS had the closing date wrong and refunded me all that money THAT WASN'T MINE. I finally went to Marvin Zindler, Channel 13 News in Houston, a consumer advocate, to get them to take their money back.

Abolish the IRS and go to a flat consumption tax.

Again, one of the big problems is that too many agencies have strayed far from their original mission statements and thus their goal of serving the greater good of the citizens. This is not limited to only the IRS/Treasury Dept.

DOE, EPA, USDA, NASA, SSA.....all of them and more, have experienced (usually by their own intentional design) "mission creep".
They do this to ensure their own survival and to make their agencies more 'relevant' when it comes to budgetary inputs.

I doubt we will ever see IRS as we know it "abolished" and replaced strictly by a federal consumption tax.
The Dept of Treasury employs around 87,000 people with about 70,000 of those being full or part time IRS employees. There are another 63,000 federal employees that work in jobs related to US Treasury/IRS, and are represented by a very strong National Treasury Employees Union, 150,000 members. Their lobbying efforts in congress is substantial. They aren't going to go quietly into the night by any means.

Consumption tax sounds good on surface, but it would have to be in conjunction with some sort of flat income tax as well, or have a lot of exceptions/exemptions. Consumption tax moves the brunt of revenue assessment onto young families with kids at home. Old people, whose kids have already left home do spend money but person for person, are more frugal than young families. Even the elder rich and semi-rich tend to be much more careful when and how they spend money.

Our tax code is and has been for a very long time 'broken' but I know of no easy, fair way to fix it, tho a 'debt tax' with exemptions for home mortgage would go a long way toward fixing it IMO. It would also reduce the propensity for people to so easily go into debt they really can ill afford.

More than that, I won't say, as it would be getting into politics...

 

[promiseacres]

Coffee is on.

 

[r3bauer]

Morning all.

 

[Mini Horses]

GOOD MORNING!!
It's just a good day when we awaken and have sunshine soon after!

Windy -- huge winds yesterday as a cold front moved in. Still cool and 20 mph winds. Sunshine abounds! During the front moving in last night, gusts of over 75mph were along the coast and it tipped a tractor/trailer onto it's side on the Hampton Bay Bridge Tunnel (VA to Eastern shore). Luckily it didn't go into the Bay!! Driver ok. Generally they shut the bridge o such vehicles but the steady winds were not that strong, so hadn't limited traffic.

At my place...worked late and came home tired about 8:30. Instead of going out & closing coops, I sat down & soon fell asleep. Fortunately, nothing had decided to get a chicken dinner and all were accounted for at morning feed. It's tough to get On the other hand, I sure slept well!! First time I've gotten 8 straight hrs in weeks. Just checking in on all before I head out to work, again. 2020 retirement is looking good!