copasure dosage

[treeclimber233]

Today I finally got my copasure and valbazen. How do I measure the proper dosage of the copasure? By weight on a scale? Eyeball it? Dose by the weight they are now or the weight they should be? My sickest (thinest) doe is probably 50# underweight according to the vet. Another one is getting thin now too with no other symptoms. (Well except an extremely swollen face--maybe bee sting. Not bottlejaw. Whole face and neck swollen like a balloon. going down today. really weird) Each capsule contains 12.5 g copper oxide particles. I am guessing the smallest doe weighs 50#. So I figure she should get 2.5 grams?

 

[autumnprairie]

here is the page on Copasure http://www.backyardherds.com/web/viewblog.php?id=2607-copasure

Valbazen can cause abortions in bred does if you didn't know

 

[babsbag]

Yes that dosage is what I would give for that weight. I weigh mine on a scale that does grams, but I guess you could eyeball it as well.

I have a friend that comes and doses them for me with a bolus gun, she had a plastic one. My goats ate it. I need to buy her a metal one before we do it again. We put the copper in gelatin capsules then used peanut butter to hold them in the gun while she crammed them as far back in her mouth as she could. Not a fun job. I have tried to hide them in marshmellow, didn't work. I tried sprinkling on grain, didn't work well. I tried just using my finger in their mouth; that was successful but dangerous.

Whoever said that goats will ear anything never owned one. They only eat what THEY want, never what WE want.

 

[treeclimber233]

I think I read on here that someone mixed it in molasses and just gave it that way. I know I can get it in my one doe that way. She will try to eat anything I have in my hands when I go to the barn. Not a problem to drench her. She tries to eat the drencher. I mixed up a float solution to do fecals today. I wanted to do a fecal before and after the copasure treatment but my doe did not cooperate and give me a fresh sample.

 

[elevan]

If you want to do a fecal after the copasure then you want to wait about a week to get an accurate count.

 

[20kidsonhill]

We used to just give it as a bolus, but it is an overwhelming job. Last time we cut the end off a 6cc syringe, poured in 2 cc of mollasses, poured in the measured copper rods, then poured in more mollasses and put it as far back in their mouth as possible. Seemed to work pretty well.

we just tried mixing it in mollasses and drawing it up in a 60cc syringe, but the copper rods, sink to the bottom and separated out.

 

[treeclimber233]

Good to know the rods will seperate out and I need to mix molasses and rods in the syringe.

 

[20kidsonhill]

Good to know the rods will seperate out and I need to mix molasses and rods in the syringe.

Have to cut the whole end of the syringe, at the point it gets the widest. Don't dry to dose it through the little hole that you put a needle on, even with out the needle, the copasure rods will separate out and just get stuck in the syringe. And we didn't mix the molasses with the rods, we just layered it.

 

[treeclimber233]

I just did my first fecal. got a fresh speciman this morning. Did the copper blouse on two does. I only saw three eggs but then again it is my first try. I will do this again in 10 days and see what I find. But with the seemingly light worm load my goat seems to have why would she still have loose stools? They are shaped like a cow pile now not real runny like they were. And she is not gaining any weight and her eyelids are still white. The others eyelids are pinking up.

 

[Renegade]

Coccidia.

We have a 2yr old doe that came home from being bred that had pudding poop. Dewormed her with Cydectin since she was off the farm for about a month. When she continued to have loose stool we did a fecal and were floored to see she was full of coccidia. We treated her accordingly and her stools were normal within 48hrs.

Donna