Coughing... Lung worms OR Virus?

[Sara1226]

Thank you, I guess I should have posted this in the goat section, but I'm still getting used to the layout of this site. It's quite different than the backyardchicken site.

Anyway, I appreciate all the advice and suggestions. I stopped to fleet farm and picked up the correct wormer, and an antibiotic. I will finish treating for worms, as this is my 2nd day into treatment, and if no luck I will try an antibiotic. I sure hope something works and things don't go down hill even more. Thanks again.

 

[Southern by choice]

Thank you, I guess I should have posted this in the goat section, but I'm still getting used to the layout of this site. It's quite different than the backyardchicken site.

Anyway, I appreciate all the advice and suggestions. I stopped to fleet farm and picked up the correct wormer, and an antibiotic. I will finish treating for worms, as this is my 2nd day into treatment, and if no luck I will try an antibiotic. I sure hope something works and things don't go down hill even more. Thanks again.

PLEASE have fecal checked for cocci.
What dewormer did you get?

 

[Sara1226]

The wether that was coughing first (and the most often) was and is on a kid pellet with Monensin for cocci. So maybe cocci issues could be ruled out? I got the wormer that starts with an "L" as suggested above. My appologies, I don't have it right in front of me. Levamisole..? Don't know how much to give? It's a paste. Also picked up duramycin if worming fails.

 

[babsbag]

I have a hard time with dosage on paste wormers but you want to make sure and not give them too much. The dosage on the package is probably for horses. Do not overdose this drug.

If you can find Prohibit, it is Levamisole in a powder form for making a drench. A little easier to get the dosage figured out.

 

[Southern by choice]

Ivermectin treats lungworm.
I think it is far safer than prohibit/levamisole

We had lungworm years ago and used ivermectin (injecatable cattle) and it worked just fine.

Safegaurd also works but the protocol is longer with a higher dosage.

I agree with @babsbag pastes are very difficult to get accurate dosing with.

 

[babsbag]

The Merck manual says no to Ivermectin for goats and lungworm. I have never had to treat for it so only know what I read.

 

[babsbag]

The Merck Manual says this as far as drug choices and it seems that Ivermectin or Safeguard is not the drug for goats.

The benzimidazoles (fenbendazole, oxfendazole, and albendazole) and macrocyclic lactones (ivermectin, doramectin, eprinomectin, and moxidectin) are frequently used in cattle and are effective against all stages of D viviparus. These drugs are also effective against lungworms in sheep, horses, and pigs. Levamisole is used in cattle, sheep, and goats, but treatment may need to be repeated 2 wk later because it is less effective against larvae during the early stages.

 

[Southern by choice]

I don't use the Merck manual. I rely more on Goat research sites.

We did not give as injectable. It was given orally.



Muellerius capillaris
Chemical control is difficult. Some usual anthelmintics such as broad spectrum benzimidazoles(albendazole, febantel, fenbendazole, oxfendazole, etc.) or levamisole are not or only partially effective against these worms. Macrocyclic lactones (e.g. abamectin, doramectin, eprinomectin, ivermectin, moxidectin) seem to be effective against adult worms at the usual therapeutic dose, but not or only partially effective against immature larvae.


Dictyocaulus viviparous
Excepting slow-release boluses, most wormers containing benzimidazoles (e.g. albendazole, febantel,fenbendazole, oxfendazole, etc.), levamisole, tetrahydropyrimidines (e.g. morantel, pyrantel) and other classic anthelmintics kill the worms shortly after treatment and are quickly metabolized and/or excreted within a few hours or days. This means that they have a short residual effect, or no residual effect at all. As a consequence treated animals are cured from worms but do not remain protected against new infections. To ensure that they remain worm-free the animals have to be dewormed periodically, depending on the local epidemiological, ecological and climatic conditions. An exception to this are macrocyclic lactones (e.g. abamectin, doramectin, eprinomectin,ivermectin, moxidectin), that offer several weeks protection against re-infestation, depending on the delivery formand the specific parasite.

Fenbendazole (safeguard) does work on lungworm in dogs and cats.

 

[NH homesteader]

And this is why goats are so confusing!

 

[Southern by choice]

And this is why goats are so confusing!

Amen to that!

I find it quite fascinating though! I really like the study of parasites so I read as much as I can.