couple questions for Large property like more then 20 acres...

[Kitdragon2000]

First I apologize if this is in the wrong thread... im just not sure Where to put it.

So still working on getting a large piece of land, the family says we are at least getting 10 acres, there are 2 of us who want more, and 2 who dont...

one of the reasons the two who Dont want land is they are worried of taking care of the land. Im all up for getting some cattle and letting them graze the land, or leasing it out, things like that. we are already going to have 3 houses on the property with a pool, and a large back yard we all plan to share, along with around an acre for the garden, which includes a small orchard. For the animals dog runs, a large chicken coop with run (to keep them safe from birds & predators.) along with shelters and fenced areas for goats, and horses. Ok ill stop with the dream and ask the question... What other things do you all do to maintain the land? and what kind of things do you have to go maintain that the animals dont work? (like fire walls, or creeks, small streets ext?)

2nd thing is i know it sounds sort of stupid but how do the larger properties handle trash pick up? Do you guys have a normal pick up day or is there a huge trash bin that gets picks up whenever its full? Or do you have to take it all to the dump?

Sorry if it sounds stupid.. im just trying to figure it all out, and get ammo for getting more land

 

[Canamer]

The more land, the more upkeep. We have a little under 30 acres, with 9 horses and 2 Shetland ponies. We have have our property split into 5 pastures (2-3 acres each ), two smaller paddocks about 3/4 of an acre, 2 pony paddocks about 1/4 of an acre. We have divided them this way, A) to divide the horses up into small groups for turn out, and B) so that we can rotate around the pastures (a must to keep the grass healthy). A riding arena, a jump field, the barn yard and the house. For us there is a lot of upkeep. We have to mow the lanes around the pastures (with a tractor) and weed eat the fence lines so that the electric fence will work. The yard, barn yard and jump field is mowed with a lawn mower. That means every day off is spent on upkeep. Now granted we like our place to look groomed all the time. We have had a wet summer, so have also had to spend time mowing the actual pastures.

We also had 4 cows, but have recently sold them, as they were taking up to much of my horses room.

There are lanes between our pastures so there is no communicating across the fence line as it only takes a second and a horse striking at another on the other side of the fence to cause a devastating injury.

We take our trash to the local dump.

 

[kfacres]

First I apologize if this is in the wrong thread... im just not sure Where to put it.


one of the reasons the two who Dont want land is they are worried of taking care of the land. Im all up for getting some cattle and letting them graze the land, or leasing it out, things like that. we are already going to have 3 houses on the property with a pool, and a large back yard we all plan to share, along with around an acre for the garden, which includes a small orchard. For the animals dog runs, a large chicken coop with run (to keep them safe from birds & predators.) along with shelters and fenced areas for goats, and horses. Ok ill stop with the dream and ask the question... What other things do you all do to maintain the land? and what kind of things do you have to go maintain that the animals dont work? (like fire walls, or creeks, small streets ext?)

2nd thing is i know it sounds sort of stupid but how do the larger properties handle trash pick up? Do you guys have a normal pick up day or is there a huge trash bin that gets picks up whenever its full? Or do you have to take it all to the dump?

Sorry if it sounds stupid.. im just trying to figure it all out, and get ammo for getting more land

3 houses- at 2-3 acres each = 6-9 acres
garden, 1 acre
1 acre (208 x 208) for other small animals, 1 acre


You are already up to 8-11 acres, with no room for goats, horses, cows, or anything else.

Upkeep doesn't consist of anything really-- mow it once a year o boy. build fence, and maintain that, but you'll have to do that anyways.. and fence with livestock who have plenty to eat rarely gets torn up.

The person above me has tons of wasted space with alleys, and wasted dollars with double the fence.. I wouldn't do that, waste, IMO

trash, you can hire it done, burn it yourself, or take it somewhere.

 

[Kitdragon2000]

the houses arnt going to be that big. the houses each are around 4,000 sq feet each, im thinking about a acre for all 3 houses and the back yard maybe a little more for the pool since it will be a litter separate, we figure we are all family so we can be semi-close. hey more room then we have right now! (5 - 6 adults and 1 4year old w/ 6 dogs, 5 cats, 1 snake, and 5 rats) the garden / orchard im figuring an acre (with most likely room to spare)

the garden im figuring an acre because its just to feed the family. so don't need a ton of room there

So maybe my question should be around how many acres should i have?

Thanks for answering the question of the trash, i have been wondering.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

1 acre is 208 feet x 208 feet, your going to need way more than 1 acre for three houses.

 

[kfacres]

Right where this house stands that I'm in right now- is 2 acres-- and in all honesty-- this is the smallest house in the world, and I barely have enough room to turn around in the yard with, and park our two stock trailors (8x20 and 6x10), the three vehicles, and enough room for the small animal pens. our garden is about 20x40, and we'd like to expand it but don't have enough room. What about a front yard? What about parking space?

Even lots in town with a house on them, are an acre or two with as 'big' backyard. Again, 208x208 is an acre. 43,560 sq ft is an acre if you didn't know it.

IMO, you are going to need 10 acres for the houses alone, parking, and back yard. Depending on where you live (state and terrain), you are going to need at least an acre per horse, cow/ calf pair, or 5 goats. So, that means take that times how ever many animals you WANT, add 10%-- and that's how many acres you are going to need.

I also don't know where you live, but I am in the home buying market right now, and finding a place with more than 10-12 acres and a house on it-- is almost impossible.

 

[RemudaOne]

It would probably be a good idea to get a realtor to show you some 10, 15 and 20 acre tracts so that you can get a visual idea of the size of an acre...... It ain't much when you're talking livestock. That being said, I think that (for me) 4000 square foot houses are pretty big but if you don't mind being a little cozy, I think you could do the 3 houses, communal backyard and pool on about 5 acres. That doesnt include the garden though.

I don't want to dry lot my animals here so I keep the numbers down to a level where I don't have to do that. It's a personal preference but I don't want that kind of life for them. As far as having lanes between paddocks or pastures, it's a very common practice on horse farms. We don't do it here but it doesnt seem so wasteful when a 10 or 20 thousand dollar animal has to be destroyed or layed off indefinitely after an "across the fence" horse fight.

 

[secuono]

Whether or not you have trash pick up solely depends on the companies and if they are willing to even come out to you. Some may come if you rent a small dumpster from them. If not, you will have to do your own trash, either a local recycling center or a fire pit for things that are legal to burn.


We are on 5 acres, but mainly a mountain mess. Mowing with a small riding mower is near impossible and the heat makes it even more of a bother. Early Spring and late Fall is when we clean things up, impossible during Summer and things are let to grow wild. But, I am slowly growing my sheep flock and the pigs. I want to use them on rotational grazing to help maintain the growth.

 

[Catahoula]

4,000sq foot home is a huge house! When you have a realtor to show you land, you may also check for building permits in general...what it will entails. To build one house is a big deal...not to mention 3 huge ones. You'll need to see what the land is zone for to see if you can even build that many buildings. Other things to considered are your utilities in general? Will you have electricity, natural gas, water source and sewer service? If you are going to be in total remote area, your not have all those utilities....especially sewer. If you ended up with a septic tank and a water well, you may not want a pool. Being remote, you may also have private roads to maintain. May I ask where you are thinking of buying property?

 

[Kitdragon2000]

i knew that 43,560 sq = 1 acre.. but i was to much of a dididii to think of it as a square instead of a line x.x now i get to refigure everything *Dies*

we r in CA, but by a area where farms are normal. we are exploring all the options, one thing that my mom has talked with a Realtor friend of hers is the town right next to us has a freeway through the middle of it, but the side roads on either side the land has city electricity, and water from the city, but we have the land component (and not horribly hilly at that!!) we havent done a Ton of scouting around since we (Still) dont know how much my dads settelment will be....

any help is appreciated, im new to this, done a ton of research but havent been able to find anyone who is willing to help me put everything togeather. iv been doing it all half blind (even have to push the family to tell me which houses they want )

so there will be 2 main houses atm they are each 2,939sqft (thought my mom wants a smaller home, dad doesnt x.x they can argue about it and just let me know the outcome.) the 3rd house we are hoping will be legal, but its only going to be a 1 bed, 1 bath, thats only 788 sqft,

i have seen any land with houses on it are a crazy sum... (like a mil ) but what im doing is looking into property and if we got all utilities on it... we are going to get it by a street, so it would only be getting a electric company to come out and run a line through to the houses. the water has been one we are trying to really figure out, i was thinking a well, and septic tank, so @catahoula why would we not want those with a pool? mom is really hoping for a property in the next town, that way we can have city water and sewage.

but all of this is why i am asking i thought i had most of it figured out. i have been trying for awhile to figure out how many acres to an animal, with the legal and humane for them, but, as i said no one else is willing to really talk to me, or if they do i feel its them talking down to me, and i get enough of that at work along with every other bad thing possible... but i also know according to some i am easily offended ... *sigh*

so yea, i know about permits and such will be needed, last i checked the company we will be getting the modular homes through will get the permits, if able. i am trying to look in the counties to see what there legal zoning codes and such Are so i can go looking with more know how, but i swear its 1 step forward 2 step back with all this lately. 2 out of 3 counties i cant find anything pertaining to farm, like zoning codes, how many animals legally i can have in an acre ext. and i know i want more property so i can have all the animals i want, its trying to convice my mother, my dad's already sold. and the maintenance and trash are big questions for her. hence me asking...