Dead baby, what next?

[ohiofarmgirl]

just tell them you watch a lot of Law and Order and cant wait to "string him up"

i swear i know someone who did this and was serious about it. they sent him home

sorry for your loss
:-(

When it rains, it pours! And I have discovered that having goats seems to generate thunderstorms

AMEN!

 

[()relics]

First of all: she should pass the placenta by 12 or so hours after the birth. If she hasn't passed it , Could there still be another kid, possibly also dead inside her yet? I would put on a pair of gloves and VERY CAREFULLY make an inspection of her birth canal/uterus, lubricate them well before entering. Make 100% sure there is not a kid or the remains of a kid inside, if there is it has to come out....It is probably not alive anymore so think of the doe and pull it out, in pieces if you have to....DO NOT pull the placenta as it could tear inside her and she could bleed to death. No matter what you find or don't find a vet visit would be on an ASAP basis. Until a vet can be contacted you could give her some Pen G...I would give her 10 cc and give it to her in her uterus, without a needle, just shoot it inside her. I wouldn't even think about Oxytocin if you aren't experienced with it and then only after 48 hours at least after the birth. If you aren't going to milk her I wouldn't mess with opening her teats and potentially exposing them to outside infectious agents...The first and most important thing to do is contact your vet so he/she can have an answer for you asap as to what they want you to do next.

 

[Gatorpupsmom]

Well, it ended very badly. I am trying to think how to type this and not convey the complete, total bitterness I am feeling about the whole thing.

Esther was only 15 months old, bred when she was 8 months old. I can't help but think all of this wouldn't have happened had we waited and not bred her the first year she came in heat. That decision was taken out of my hands by a husband who assured me I didn't know what I was talking about....hence the bitterness and anger. I know it happens with all ages of birthing goats, but I still believe it would have been better to wait.

She had gotten to the point she couldn't get up and walk. Last night after watching and watching and watching for a placenta to pass, I realized that she was trying to have another dead baby. Or rather, the hooves of a dead baby were hanging out. We finally talked to the vet, who tried to instruct us on how to get the dead baby out. The head was turned back and we tried for over 2 hours to push the baby back and reposition it so we could pull it out. 2 hours of listening to Esther scream while we pushed and pulled and tugged. I am sure if we could have gotten her to a vet things might have turned out differently, but I couldn't stand to put her through it any longer. We put her down.......

It was horrible, and without going into a page long diatribe detailing how angry I am about the whole situation, I just want to say "Thank You" for giving me advice when I was stuck trying to deal with it on my own.

Sadly,

Kim

 

[mossyStone]

Kim.. I am so very sorry ((((((hugs))))))


Mossy Stone Farm!

 

[freemotion]

It is truly horrible to watch an animal suffer so much and not be able to help. You were brave to make the decision to give her the ultimate kindness and end her suffering.

In a few days when you have had some rest, try not to beat yourself (or your dh) up too much about the breeding dates. Thousands of goats are bred at 8 months with no problems. And many are bred at 2 years old and have problems. My mature goat had two difficult presentations in a row, and she was bred at 2-3 years old. My doeling that was bred at 8 months squirted her baby out quickly and nursed it all by herself in between my frequent checks. It happens. Not much comfort, I know, but please hear me, it is not your fault or your husband's.

 

[The Egg Bandit]

Oh, I am so sorry for your loss! I was so afraid something like that would happen to one of my does. Like freemotion said, sometimes the youngsters just squirt them out with no worries. I feel your pain. But don't give up, even vets lose them sometimes. The good days happen more often than the bad days with goats. Hang in there, and your DH probably feels bad too, so be nice to each other.

 

[glenolam]

I, too, am very sorry to hear about your pain and loss! Time will hopefully heal you and at the very least you come out of this with some knowledge of how to help in the future, God forbid you ever have to go through this again.

 

[RockyToggRanch]

so sorry...

 

[noobiechickenlady]

I am so sorry to hear about your loss.

 

[lilhill]

So very sorry for your loss.