Dis-budded Buckling with Infection

[OneFineAcre]

That was a botched job. This is what it is supposed to look like. This is a buckling that' why you see the two burns in the figure 8

I've never seen anything like that.

I wish you were closer. I would volunteer to do all of your disbudding going forward.

 

[babsbag]

We dont disbud, but I would have chosen Procain G shots twice a day for an infection and cover the skin with neomycin ointment. Honestly, if you called the same vet, they may be trying to cover themselves and not make it sound serious. But to me it looks very infected.
I would give more than one LA 200 shot, Maybe 1 shot every other day for 3 treatments and keep pointing antibiotics on the open sores.

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IMO 1 dose of LA200 as a precaution isn't going to do the deal. I would go at least the 3 doses every other day and not sure that LA 200 would be my choice either. I had a buck that we had to have a re-do on his horns at 6 months and it did open into the sinus cavity and did get infected. I poured an antibiotic liquid down into his sinus cavity and changed a bandage every day for about a month. It was awful.

A good way I found to bandage a head is to use a panty liner pad with the sticky on the back and then attach a long piece of gauze to the sticky part of the pad, put the pad on their head and tie the gauze under thier chin. Then I wrapped it all with cling. Those ears get in the way.

I would keep a close eye on this being that it is so close to his brain. Even the one that isn't GROSS doesn't look normal. And I would do the tetanus anti-toxin too (not the vaccine- the anti-toxin is for treating after a wound). You don't want to mess around with that.

 

[cjhubbs]

I will have my mom get the tetanus anti-toxin while she is out. Thanks for the heads up on the liner and gauze. I don't know if you can tell but the vet told me that its normal for the horn buds to fall off once they are burned, which they did, is this actually supposed to happen? Okay so my mom said she got the LA-200, she mentioned something about it potentially causing scours, do you think I should give the buckling some probios along with it for three days straight. Should I give the other buckling a dose of the anti toxin along with the sick buckling, and how often should I for the sick one?

 

[babsbag]

I would give the tetanus to both of them. When I had goats on LA200 I did shots every other day for 6 days, so three injections. I have not seen scours with it. I think you only need to give the anti-toxin 1 time and we gave 1.5 cc to a baby before disbudding (we don't usually do that, I have a friend that always does ). Is the buckling's dam vaccinated? If the dam isn't vaccinated I would repeat the anti-toxin in 10 days. He gets his first CDT vaccine at 3-4 weeks.

How old is your buckling? Baby goats don't have a functioning rumen and I am not sure when it starts to function so I am not sure about probiotics for a very young goat.

As far as the horn buds falling off, yes they do. But the don't look like yours. You typically just see a scab, no ooze, no smell, no puffiness. Sometimes they will bleed a tiny bit as the scab falls off, or they head butt another goat. When mine are burned she does the ring and then uses the side of the tip to cauterize or kill the horn bud. With bucklings you have to do two burns or watch them and do them again in a few weeks. My last bucking we did 3 times. If you are going to wether the kid his horms won't be quite so determined to grow.

 

[cjhubbs]

So we winded up bringing the buckling to another vet that was literally 2 1/2 miles away that we never knew cared for livestock ( more options ). Anyways, the buckling has a fever of 104 deg. and had a raging infection. The Dr. gave me some I.V fluids to give to him daily as long as his temps are up (it includes vitamin B complex), 3 doses of L.A 200 free of charge, dosage for the penacillan and great tips, she also promised to check in daily until he is better . So but I think the little guy should be on his way to recovery and we may be on our way to a new and much closer live stock vet.

 

[OneFineAcre]

So we winded up bringing the buckling to another vet that was literally 2 1/2 miles away that we never knew cared for livestock ( more options ). Anyways, the buckling has a fever of 104 deg. and had a raging infection. The Dr. gave me some I.V fluids to give to him daily as long as his temps are up (it includes vitamin B complex), 3 doses of L.A 200 free of charge, dosage for the penacillan and great tips, she also promised to check in daily until he is better . So but I think the little guy should be on his way to recovery and we may be on our way to a new and much closer live stock vet.

That's great news.
I know that when we had our experience with an infection in a sinus cavity and we took ours to the vet school at N.C. State University, they administered LA 200.

I'm glad he's on the road to recovery, and you have a new vet.

Is he a Sannen?

 

[babsbag]

Sounds like you found a competent vet. It doesn't take much to recognize an infection. I would sure let the other vet know what has happened. And take pictures.

Hope he makes a quick recovery for you. I am glad you took him in.

 

[cjhubbs]

Yeah so am I. I also learned how to not put in a sub Q injection and use an IV earlier when I winded up giving the poor buckling a bubble of fluids on his back. Luckily it subsided but I still feel bad. Yeah so I guess thats what happens when an IV hasn't fully peirced through the skin and the dripper piece is on to high :/. Anyways I will try to get some more pictures of him today because he actually is starting to look better. Oh and yes he is a Saanen.

 

[20kidsonhill]

Yeah so am I. I also learned how to not put in a sub Q injection and use an IV earlier when I winded up giving the poor buckling a bubble of fluids on his back. Luckily it subsided but I still feel bad. Yeah so I guess thats what happens when an IV hasn't fully peirced through the skin and the dripper piece is on to high :/. Anyways I will try to get some more pictures of him today because he actually is starting to look better. Oh and yes he is a Saanen.

If giving the IV sub Q, it will make a big bubble of fluid that is normal, you can take it out and make a bubble in another location.

 

[SuburbanFarmChic]

Yeah so am I. I also learned how to not put in a sub Q injection and use an IV earlier when I winded up giving the poor buckling a bubble of fluids on his back. Luckily it subsided but I still feel bad. Yeah so I guess thats what happens when an IV hasn't fully peirced through the skin and the dripper piece is on to high :/. Anyways I will try to get some more pictures of him today because he actually is starting to look better. Oh and yes he is a Saanen.

If giving the IV sub Q, it will make a big bubble of fluid that is normal, you can take it out and make a bubble in another location.

that bubble is what you want. You let them build up a big bubble of fluid and then they slowly absorb it.

In many areas only a vet can start an IV but anybody can give an injection. So you "inject" the IV sub Q and give them a camel back to absorb.