Diva's not feeling well - Update: She's on the mend!

[ksalvagno]

You can also use Safeguard for the llama. It is dosed at 1cc per 10 lbs. Like Helmstead said, also Valbazen can be used if not pregnant. Not sure on dosage though since I have always used Safeguard.

 

[elevan]

EVERYONE gets cocci eventually.

Valbazen or Quest are both safe for llamas to treat tapes - as long as they're not bred.

Yeah, I know everyone gets cocci eventually...it still sucks though.

Do you know what the dosage is for Valbazen in llamas? I'm pretty sure HE is not bred

 

[elevan]

You can also use Safeguard for the llama. It is dosed at 1cc per 10 lbs. Like Helmstead said, also Valbazen can be used if not pregnant. Not sure on dosage though since I have always used Safeguard.

Thanks! I'll use the Safeguard on him. Do I do it 3 days in a row like the goats or is it a one time dose for llamas?

 

[20kidsonhill]

If I'm not mistaken Quest only has moxidectin in it, You have to buy Quest Plus which has moxidectin and praziquantel in it for tapeworms.

Also Equimax horse paste has praziquantel in it, along with ivermectin. This is a product I use every summer on our goats for tapeworms. For the goats I use it at 3x the label for horses.

Valbazene and safegaurd need to be treated for 3 days in a row for tapeworms, but they do not remove the heads of the tapeworms only the segments.

 

[ksalvagno]

Do it 3 days in a row. That Safeguard dose is for the liquid. I'm not sure what they are saying for dosage on the paste. I think you have to give most of the tube for a llama.

I did look on AlpacaNation and someone put a dose of 4.5cc per 100 lbs for Valbazen.

 

[elevan]

If I'm not mistaken Quest only has moxidectin in it, You have to buy Quest Plus which has moxidectin and praziquantel in it for tapeworms.

Also Equimax horse paste has praziquantel in it, along with ivermectin. This is a product I use every summer on our goats for tapeworms. For the goats I use it at 3x the label for horses.

Valbazene and safegaurd need to be treated for 3 days in a row for tapeworms, but they do not remove the heads of the tapeworms only the segments.

Thanks for the info. Is the Equimax safe for pregnant does? And does it kill the head of the tapeworm too?

 

[elevan]

Do it 3 days in a row. That Safeguard dose is for the liquid. I'm not sure what they are saying for dosage on the paste. I think you have to give most of the tube for a llama.

I did look on AlpacaNation and someone put a dose of 4.5cc per 100 lbs for Valbazen.

Thanks. I have the liquid. Oh boy, giving him about 30 cc 3 days in a row is gonna be one heck of a chore

 

[20kidsonhill]

If I'm not mistaken Quest only has moxidectin in it, You have to buy Quest Plus which has moxidectin and praziquantel in it for tapeworms.

Also Equimax horse paste has praziquantel in it, along with ivermectin. This is a product I use every summer on our goats for tapeworms. For the goats I use it at 3x the label for horses.

Valbazene and safegaurd need to be treated for 3 days in a row for tapeworms, but they do not remove the heads of the tapeworms only the segments.

Thanks for the info. Is the Equimax safe for pregnant does? And does it kill the head of the tapeworm too?

Yes, praziquantel removes the heads of the tapeworm, I have used it on pregnant does, but since there isn't much information on it for meat/milk animals, I don't want to tell you something I am not possitive about.

We had a heck of a tapeworm problem on our farm, and upon researching treatments I came across Praziquental, it is labeled for use in livestock in other countries, just not USA. I use a 90 day withdrawal date on all medictations I use off label.

I could see a difference in my goats in just a week. One doe had a huge tapeworm hanging out off her and stuck to the side of her after I used it. MY husband was amazed and him and I have worked in agriculture all of our lives.

I know they say, tapeworms, don't kill livestock and they don't even think that it really hurts them all that much, but I disagree. I think it adds stress to their systems, causes them to gain weight slower and over all weakens them, perhaps making them more acceptable to other worm loads like Cocci.

 

[elevan]

Oh I'm a firm believer in the entire body / system working together and that if any one thing is out of whack or an "invader" is present then other things are gonna be affected. Tapeworms being no exception.

Thanks for the info on Equimax, we got it to treat the horses at the vet's advice so I'll just keep it on hand in my goat cabinet too and give it a try next time.


We've dosed the Albon already and the Valbazen to everyone that was getting it. I just got back with the safeguard so we'll dose that to the pregnant does and the llama here shortly.

Thank you everyone for your help and support. Diva has had a rough couple of days with this heavy scouring...so we're crossing our fingers that she turns around quickly.

 

[20kidsonhill]

If I have a goat that is scouring really bad from cocci.

I treat with the corid or sulfa-dimeth twice the first day along with drenching with kaopectin and spectam scour halt and giving a shot penn G.

Then the remainder of the treatment I just keep treating one time a day with the cocci medication and one time a day with Penn G.

This treatment really seems to help get it under control quickly.