Doe went off feed and milk production down by 1/3....possible UTI?

[Emmetts Dairy]

1cc and 1ml are the same.

On the website link I left it said 1-2mg per 100 lbs. They obviously converted it differantly depending on the product labeling etc. Ones a volume measurement and ones a wieght measurement. Any how. ????

I would look at your syringe and if its in cc or ml, which most are, I would go with 1 cc or 1ml per 20lbs. Its obviously in liquid form so that would be fine.

I hate pharmacutical conversions!!!

And all of this is now moot becuase your backing off the steriods!!! Sorry!! LOL!!

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

I have children who have to inject daily to stay alive so I knew the cc and ml thingy. I was being a nitwit and misread the mg as ml. Sorry about that! :/

She is not coughing or anything so I think her lungs may be okay...at least for now.

She's nibbling on hay and water but still has absolutely no interest in the grain. She's not eating a huge amount of hay or water but she is eating them.

My son just finished up giving her the last round of a 500ml bottle of Calcium Gluconate. She's up and about and much more lively now, but the not wanting grain has me really worried.

She's putting out 1 cup of milk per milking now. This is down from 3 cups per milking.

Her temp was normal when he checked it this afternoon and her rumen seems to be working. She's not bloated at all. She is hydrated (the eyelid is not tenting when pinched up and her urine is light colored and not dark at all) but I am worried that is because we've been putting 50cc's of Calcium Gluconate in her by SQ injections, every 2 hrs.

Is there anything else we should be looking for that would explain her total disinterest in grain still? Any thoughts on what might be causing her disinterest? From those of you who have dealt with the milk fever before, is this normal? If it is normal, when should we expect her to show interest in eating again?

 

[20kidsonhill]

Did you redo the fecal test yet?

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Yes, we did. It was negative. Her coloring is good so I feel comfortable marking parasites off the list.

We do our own fecal floats but this time I had the vet do it just in case I was not catching something.

I feel like a daytime goat drama here each time my son calls. Apparently her temp is 103.6. I'm not worried yet but it has held at right about 103.3 for the last day or two so it is just slightly elevated. I may have to rethink the dexamethasone. She's still on Nuflor so that should keep anything too serious at bay.

 

[Livinwright Farm]

Have you tried adding a little calf manna to her grain ration? it has anise in it, which make it more palletable for them... just a thought.
Someone more knowledgeable, please, if this might make things worse, please correct me.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Livinwright, we have not tried that. I'll wait to see if anyone warns against it as well as do some googling to check for any warnings out there.

Thanks so much for the suggestion! At this point, most anything is worth a try.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Update: Temp is now 104.7

She's on Nuflor. What in blue blazes??

 

[helmstead]

Antibiotics are no guarantee that an infection won't set in, especially with aspiration. I would give some Banamine or others here have suggested children's advil (right?) to bring her temp down.

As long as she's eating hay...be happy with that. I would try to get some CMPK instead of the gluconate and get that in her...along with lots of B Complex (you can't overdose that!) to stimulate her appetite. Make sure the hay she is eating has all the nutrition it possibly could (ie...alfalfa hay) and give her time to come back to the grain. You might loose this freshening as far as milking goes, but if you save the doe, that's the best possible outcome. Also give her Probios to help repopulate that rumen...daily since she's on antibiotics.

(sorry I didn't read back, so if you already are, my apologies)

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Thank you Helmstead! How much vitamin B Complex would you suggest? I gave her some the first 2 days at 5cc's, 12 hrs apart. Do you think that is adequate? Also, ours is the Fortified Vitamin B Complex so it has both B1 and B12 in it.

I just told him to go traumatize her with more CMPK and Vitamin B shots along with some baby aspirin.

He said he's going to start calling her "Ms Pinprick" for obvious reasons.

 

[helmstead]

Golly when I have a sick goater, I do 3 ccs of B complex every 4 hours. Again, you cannot overdose it, they just pee the extra out. Now, that 3 cc is for the average Nigerian, I'd double it for a standard. So...maybe try 3 times a day and see how that helps.

*of course it turns the urine dark and smelly, so don't let that throw you*